Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Schroll
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: Well... that's the *theory*, but in practice it's sadly a bit more problematic ;) As we say in physics: in theory there's no difference between theory and practice; in practice, there is. That being said, we discussed all th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hey Robert, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 18:08, Robert Schroll pisze: > Thanks for the explanation! > > Just to make sure I've got it: devel isn't actually dangerous right now > -- it's just not going to get any love until devel-proposed manages to > stabilize. rc-proposed is available, but under the "If

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Robert Schroll
Thanks for the explanation! Just to make sure I've got it: devel isn't actually dangerous right now -- it's just not going to get any love until devel-proposed manages to stabilize. rc-proposed is available, but under the "If it breaks, you get both halves" warranty. I'm speaking from a pos

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Somlói
Thanks for your answer Łukasz. I have another question. You wrote in one of your previous landing mail there will be a new place for the stable translation. When will you announce this new place? 2015-08-14 11:17 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Delvaux : > Le 14/08/2015 10:56, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > > hi,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
Le 14/08/2015 10:56, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > hi, > Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 10:42 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Delvaux: >> Hi, >> >> Le 14/08/2015 10:23, Oliver Grawert a écrit : >>> [...] the fact that 15.10 will never show up on any >>> actual devices by definition the attention for it is very low

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 10:42 +0200 schrieb Nicolas Delvaux: > Hi, > > Le 14/08/2015 10:23, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > > [...] the fact that 15.10 will never show up on any > > actual devices by definition the attention for it is very low. > > AFAIK it was never stated this clearly before

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Freitag, den 14.08.2015, 10:27 +0200 schrieb Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak: > > I think Robert meant the 'devel' channel, not 'devel-proposed'. And > devel currently is stale as we didn't promote anything there for quite a > while. oops, yes, sorry, seems i had not had enough coffee :) ciao

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Nicolas Delvaux
Hi, Le 14/08/2015 10:23, Oliver Grawert a écrit : > [...] the fact that 15.10 will never show up on any > actual devices by definition the attention for it is very low. AFAIK it was never stated this clearly before. What is the plan for stable phone users? Official Vivid support is supposed to e

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hey Richard, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 10:25, Richard Somlói pisze: > Hi! > > Is the rc-proposed enough stable for daily use? The answer is: no. Any of the *-proposed channels are not recommended for daily use. Even though each package landing in an rc-proposed image does get proper QA, with every ima

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hey Oliver, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 10:23, Oliver Grawert pisze: > hi, > Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 21:53 -0400 schrieb Robert Schroll: > >> >> Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo. Should we be on >> rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay on the (stale) devel channel? >> > it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Richard Somlói
Hi! Is the rc-proposed enough stable for daily use? 2015-08-14 10:23 GMT+02:00 Oliver Grawert : > hi, > Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 21:53 -0400 schrieb Robert Schroll: > > > > > Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo. Should we be on > > rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak
Hello, W dniu 14.08.2015 o 03:53, Robert Schroll pisze: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak > wrote: >> Please DO NOT use the devel/devel-proposed channels for your phones if >> not needed. > > Perhaps then we should stop recommending devel for those wishing to > "track t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-14 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 13.08.2015, 21:53 -0400 schrieb Robert Schroll: > > Neither stable or rc have images for manta or flo. Should we be on > rc-proposed, or would it be better to stay on the (stale) devel channel? > it isn't stale, everything landing in 15.04 lands there in parallel and i'm

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-13 Thread Robert Schroll
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: Please DO NOT use the devel/devel-proposed channels for your phones if not needed. Perhaps then we should stop recommending devel for those wishing to "track the latest development" on developer.ubunutu.com [1]? Although devel

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-13 Thread Olivier Tilloy
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 08:14:05PM +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> Today, because of a slight mistake, one of the developers pushed a new >> HERE version that worked only on rc-proposed images, thus breaking

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 13.08.15

2015-08-13 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 08:14:05PM +0200, Łukasz 'sil2100' Zemczak wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Today, because of a slight mistake, one of the developers pushed a new > HERE version that worked only on rc-proposed images, thus breaking > existing stable phones after upgrading the package. This cha