Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread A. James Lewis
I believe the issue is not that they would not like to support the existing phones, but the move to snaps will require a newer kernel, and the hardware enablement stack available for the older hardware may not meet the requirement, and so it may be impossible exactly whether it will be po

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread Mitchell Reese
Awesome - can't wait to test it on my M10! Does this mean current phone handsets aren't being planned to update to snaps? I.e. - will there be a future image for the MX5pro, or will we need to wait until the next lot of phones comes out? Cheers, Mitchell On 06/01/17 02:48, Pat McGowan wrote:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread Mitchell Reese
Awesome - can't wait to test it on my M10! Does this mean current phone handsets aren't being planned to update to snaps? I.e. - will there be a future image for the MX5pro, or will we need to wait until the next lot of phones comes out? Cheers, Mitchell On 06/01/17 02:48, Pat McGowan wrote:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Phones

2017-01-05 Thread francisco mulas caracuel
Engaño El 6 ene. 2017 2:54 a. m., francisco mulas caracuel escribió: Conclusión,lo que comente en su día. Perdida de tiempo en un s.o. mal desarrollado desde un principio. Dinero malgastado en unos teléfonos decentes que con android van sobrados y que con esta aberración de s.o. no han dado su

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread Cos64
On 04.01.2017 22:53, Alan Pope wrote: An email from Thibaut Rouffineau - Canonical's "Head of Devices Marketing - Phone & IoT" went out to developers who had uploaded a click to the store. The mail went out on the 16th December 2016. Here's the content:- [...] I have a click package in the stor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread Seth Ciango
Pat, Could you clarify something that others keep bringing up. Are the current BQ and Meizu devices going to be left to wither on the vine when a Xenial image is released or will users be able to flash and wipe their phones with a new Xenial image? Is there a current phone on the market that is t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread advocatux
El 05/01/17 a las 16:01, Pat McGowan escribió: Hi folks You are a very insightful group indeed, let me add a few details to the questions in the other thread. [---snipped---] Hi Pat, thank you for your added explanation. Now everybody knows where they are standing, and can plan their own s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread advocatux
El 05/01/17 a las 15:00, Alan Pope escribió: Hi, On 5 January 2017 at 11:49, advocatux wrote: * Click is dead, and everything must be migrated to snap. It's not dead, it's sleeping. But yes, snap is 'click 2.0', so everyone should move to it. * There won't be new phone models until there's

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread gareth . france
We are working on a reference image for the M10 for development and testing work but this is not intended for >"production" use at this point. Pat I take that to read 'this is technically possible but not currently developed', which is encouraging. Thank you. -- Mailing list: https://launc

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread Pat McGowan
On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 10:24 AM, wrote: > I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with > >> the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use >> Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu. >> >> Thanks all for your patience >> Pat >> > > > Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread gareth . france
I would add the Unity8 desktop needs parity with the current Unity7 desktop as we are also still planning to use Unity8 as the default shell in Ubuntu. Thanks all for your patience Pat Thanks for the clarity. Those few messages we have had stating the current logic and plans is all that was

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread R A
What about security support? On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:35 PM, Heroldich Robin wrote: > But as I know, current phones won't get the snappy based image, so this > means the end of the support for every phone, doesn't it? > -- > *Feladó:* Ubuntu-phone launchpad.net>, meg

[Ubuntu-phone] The move to snaps

2017-01-05 Thread Pat McGowan
Hi folks You are a very insightful group indeed, let me add a few details to the questions in the other thread. > >> >> * Click is dead, and everything must be migrated to snap. >> > Ultimately yes, for now the store is still open and accepting new click packages. At some point we will no longer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread Heroldich Robin
But as I know, current phones won't get the snappy based image, so this means the end of the support for every phone, doesn't it? Feladó: Ubuntu-phone , meghatalmazó: Alan Pope Elküldve: 2017. január 5. 15:00:41 Címzett: ubuntu-phone Tárgy: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] P

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On 5 January 2017 at 11:49, advocatux wrote: > * Click is dead, and everything must be migrated to snap. It's not dead, it's sleeping. But yes, snap is 'click 2.0', so everyone should move to it. > * There won't be new phone models until there's a 'snap image'. I don't know, but that's a r

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread A. James Lewis
On 05/01/17 11:49, advocatux wrote: El 04/01/17 a las 21:53, Alan Pope escribió: Hi, Thanks for your continued interest in the future direction of Ubuntu. [---snipped---] Hi, Thank you for step up and face the music, so to speak. If I'm understanding you correctly: * Click is dead, and ev

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread advocatux
El 05/01/17 a las 00:55, Mitchell Reese escribió: Ackkk!!! The world isn't ending - the Ubuntu project lives on! Quick, someone find something for me to complain about... The icon colors! The icon colors aren't right... Mitchell Hi, AFAIK nobody is saying the Ubuntu project is dead. Everybo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Poor state of support.

2017-01-05 Thread advocatux
El 04/01/17 a las 21:53, Alan Pope escribió: Hi, Thanks for your continued interest in the future direction of Ubuntu. [---snipped---] Hi, Thank you for step up and face the music, so to speak. If I'm understanding you correctly: * Click is dead, and everything must be migrated to snap. *