Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

On 07/18/2013 06:29 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On 13-07-18 11:04 AM, Iain Lane wrote: >> Thoughts? I'd like to get moving on being able to define schemas and >> start making the system-settings application set and retrieve keys so >> that app (and system) developers are able to start respecting

[Ubuntu-phone] HTC One T-Mobile (m7tmo) stuck on logo, need help.

No matter what I do, my phone never gets passed the HTC logo. I tried flashing the zip then tried using fastboot to flash the images. I tried using adb to see if the image is working: It does show my device: List of devices attached 0123456789ABCDEF device However, when I try to use adb shell, I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Samsung Galaxy S(aucy)

Yeapp :) Thanks To start of I have to do one important remark: as you might see on the guide I am using the grouper boot image to compile and then flash it via adb as grouper. I now know this can be bad because it can load an incompatible kernel at some time, so I won't publish the guide for now.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Samsung Galaxy S(aucy)

I am giving it to my Dad =/ I can try help you if you need! I compiled and hacked a litle so were able to get SMS and Signal ( not able to talk because of crash of unity) but by now the code of ubuntu has change a lot and it maybe be easier to get it working! Want to try? []'sf.rique On Tu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On 07/18/2013 04:18 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 07/18/2013 01:20 PM, Thomas Voß wrote: >> On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Marc Deslauriers >> wrote: >>> On 13-07-18 01:00 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: On 07/18/2013 11:14 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 18.07.2013 17:38, Marc Deslaur

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Great! On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM, Roman Shchekin wrote: > On today's meeting Alan agreed with me that the using of Google Feed Api > is a good idea :) > > > 2013/7/18 Lisette Slegers > >> Yes, I used ctrlq too for my research. @Alan / David: are we allowed to >> use a service like that?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On 07/18/2013 01:20 PM, Thomas Voß wrote: > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Marc Deslauriers > wrote: >> On 13-07-18 01:00 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: >>> On 07/18/2013 11:14 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: W dniu 18.07.2013 17:38, Marc Deslauriers pisze: > For the browser, I imagine a URL hand

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

On today's meeting Alan agreed with me that the using of Google Feed Api is a good idea :) 2013/7/18 Lisette Slegers > Yes, I used ctrlq too for my research. @Alan / David: are we allowed to > use a service like that? Do we have an alternative? > > So we need a good name for "No topic"... > > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Yes, I used ctrlq too for my research. @Alan / David: are we allowed to use a service like that? Do we have an alternative? So we need a good name for "No topic"... On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Roman Shchekin wrote: > 1. Yep, looks great! I'll try to get something similar with sdk tools ;)

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

I don't think asymmetric encryption increases the size of the messages. If you write long messages, you're going to have a long message. Even if it did, I seem to recall most people agreeing that it is very useful in rural areas to be able to use actual SMS, since data coverage would not be availab

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

Quite interesting, will give it a read tomorrow. But at first glance: Seems to be another syntax to implement something along the lines of http://x-callback-url.com/. Thomas On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:51 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > What about contractor? > > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ras

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 13:56 -0500, Josh Leverette wrote: > The phone number approach was being used to authenticate SMS > communications. Thought we already decided it would not be possible to do this through SMS due to restrictions in size etc. I thought this was an SMS equivalent. In which case

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

The phone number approach was being used to authenticate SMS communications. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 20:26 +0200, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > > >If you're going to handle key creation and exchange invisibly, what > > use is GPG? > > Because we would w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 20:26 +0200, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > >If you're going to handle key creation and exchange invisibly, what > use is GPG? > Because we would want that infrastructure for the email anyways. I think his point is that the strength of GPG is in it's trust model. We can handle key cr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

What about contractor ? On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > I just realized that you can use the URL concept for MIME types to: > mime://image/png&file://path/to/file.png or something like that > would work well. > > >Sure and in the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

W dniu 18.07.2013 20:37, Thomas Voß pisze: > Good point and I do agree in general, However, once we allow mime-type > handling we break the strict per-app siloing of content. > > Not sure how to solve that issue for mime-type handling. Well, that only really means file:// needs to be disabled, ri

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

I just realized that you can use the URL concept for MIME types to: mime://image/png&file://path/to/file.png or something like that would work well. >Sure and in the works Great! 2013/7/18 Thomas Voß > On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Michał Sawicz > wrote: > > W dniu 18.07.2013 20:20, Thomas

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

Ok, I know very little about SIM cards. If they can't be cloned realistically, then that's fine as an authentication measure I suppose. It would also probably be wise to renegotiate the key at regular intervals, if someone is actually interested in security. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Rasmu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:28 PM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 18.07.2013 20:20, Thomas Voß pisze: >> My last status on this is that we are going to have a URL handler >> binary that apps can register with, much like for example on iOS. With >> that, Jamie's web-browser example is easily solvable,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:36 PM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: >>In that model, only the foreground >>is guaranteed to run and our application mgmt is allowed to kill/stop >>background apps at any point in time > > What about music applications? > > With this life cycle (which is good, it's like Android ac

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

>In that model, only the foreground >is guaranteed to run and our application mgmt is allowed to kill/stop >background apps at any point in time What about music applications? With this life cycle (which is good, it's like Android activity which works well) you need to also have something similar

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

>Makes sense? Correct but why I thought MIME type were better is that it would be nice to have exactly the same thing for files. I may have multiple apps that can open an image file for example. But having an URL gives the same result just that we need to handle MIME types to, in practically the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > I agree. A pluggable architecture (like Android's Intents) would be better > than hard coding. > Obviously we don't want to hardcode, but Intent's if run out of process do impose problems to the very strict lifecycle model we are going to i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 13:08 -0500, Josh Leverette wrote: > I agree. A pluggable architecture (like Android's Intents) would be > better than hard coding. It's on this blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/sdk-system-and-backend-apis "Application to call actions on other applicat

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

W dniu 18.07.2013 20:20, Thomas Voß pisze: > My last status on this is that we are going to have a URL handler > binary that apps can register with, much like for example on iOS. With > that, Jamie's web-browser example is easily solvable, and so are more > sophisticated use-cases like gallery://al

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

>If you're going to handle key creation and exchange invisibly, what use is GPG? Because we would want that infrastructure for the email anyways. >I'd rather handle email encryption on my own, because if my phone died, I'd lose my private key and could no longer read my email (which I wouldn't be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:09 PM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > I really like a MIME type only approach for this because that makes apps > pluggable. If you for example have an app called barcode scanner for > scanning > barcodes and a shopping app called price checker that can use barcode > scanner > to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > On 13-07-18 01:00 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: >> On 07/18/2013 11:14 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: >>> W dniu 18.07.2013 17:38, Marc Deslauriers pisze: For the browser, I imagine a URL handler will take care of it, but what about >>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

asymmetric encryption of some kind would probably be preferred. Possibly using quantum computer proof asymmetric encryption. (look at Wikipedia, I'm on my phone at the moment, or I would provide a link.) As far as email goes, that is notably more complex than SMS to handle. The question becomes "d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

I agree. A pluggable architecture (like Android's Intents) would be better than hard coding. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 18, 2013 12:09 PM, "Rasmus Eneman" wrote: I really like a MIME type only approach for this because that makes apps pluggable. If you for example have an app called barcode scanner

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

On 07/18/2013 11:04 AM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: The implementation I suggest in two parts. Quick messaging (SMS like): Create an XMPP service bound to Ubuntu One account, all messages should be encrypted with GPG. Automatic key creation and exchange, totally invisible for the user, If you're goin

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

The implementation I suggest in two parts. Quick messaging (SMS like): Create an XMPP service bound to Ubuntu One account, all messages should be encrypted with GPG. Automatic key creation and exchange, totally invisible for the user, Option that all SMSes sent to Ubuntu Phone users automatically

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

So, sounds like there's reasonable interest in basic security - and we just need to decide on how it'll get implemented. That about right? On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:34 PM, Daniel Clem wrote: > Mkay, sorry for the seriousness, just the topic of NSA has gotten me > extremely riled up lately. > > D

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

I really like a MIME type only approach for this because that makes apps pluggable. If you for example have an app called barcode scanner for scanning barcodes and a shopping app called price checker that can use barcode scanner to scan barcodes to scan a products barcode and see where it's cheapes

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

1. Yep, looks great! I'll try to get something similar with sdk tools ;) 2. Really interesting question. Seems that we still need something like my "No topic"... And ability for feeds to live without topic. 3. Ok, One feed -> one topic, I'll implement it soon! Toolbar item "Copy to ..." will beco

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On 13-07-18 01:00 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > On 07/18/2013 11:14 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: >> W dniu 18.07.2013 17:38, Marc Deslauriers pisze: >>> For the browser, I imagine a URL handler will take care of it, but what >>> about >>> spawning a different application that doesn't necessarily handl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

On 07/18/2013 11:14 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 18.07.2013 17:38, Marc Deslauriers pisze: >> For the browser, I imagine a URL handler will take care of it, but what about >> spawning a different application that doesn't necessarily handle URLs or >> MIME types? > > And for network access I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

On 13-07-18 12:12 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 18/07/2013 17:29, Marc Deslauriers a écrit : >> FYI, App developers will not be able to use GSettings in the current version >> of >> the SDK because of application confinement. > > Hey Marc, > > The specific usecase there is having the touch sy

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Great questions Roman! Let me try to reply. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM, Roman Shchekin wrote: > Lisette, as you correctly noted - it's "a great start", and only :) > Of course you can see a lot of differences between my realization and your > mockups, but > > 1. How notification must look?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

On 13-07-18 12:02 PM, John McAleely wrote: > On 18/07/13 16:29, Marc Deslauriers wrote: >> FYI, App developers will not be able to use GSettings in the current version >> of >> the SDK because of application confinement. >> >> Although we do have a solution for the future, support for GSettings fo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

W dniu 18.07.2013 17:38, Marc Deslauriers pisze: > For the browser, I imagine a URL handler will take care of it, but what about > spawning a different application that doesn't necessarily handle URLs or MIME > types? And for network access I expect some platform API instead. I feel like the onl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

Le 18/07/2013 17:29, Marc Deslauriers a écrit : FYI, App developers will not be able to use GSettings in the current version of the SDK because of application confinement. Hey Marc, The specific usecase there is having the touch system settings application set up a few "system settings", that

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

On 18/07/13 16:29, Marc Deslauriers wrote: FYI, App developers will not be able to use GSettings in the current version of the SDK because of application confinement. Although we do have a solution for the future, support for GSettings for applications isn't targeted at the moment. Where do I

[Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

Hi, While discussion the click packages manifest, and the possibility of supporting multiple binaries inside the same click package in the future, I was wondering if we had an API where one application can spawn another. For example, to allow AppXYZ to spawn the browser pointed to a website, to s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

On 13-07-18 11:04 AM, Iain Lane wrote: > Thoughts? I'd like to get moving on being able to define schemas and > start making the system-settings application set and retrieve keys so > that app (and system) developers are able to start respecting them. FYI, App developers will not be able to use GS

[Ubuntu-phone] GSettings schemas for phone/tablet settings

Hi all, In the system-settings team we've been talking about how we're going to be using GSettings to store the values that have been set in the application, where there's no existing location or clear application which is the owner. Things like the three toggles we have at the top: rotation lock/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Lisette, as you correctly noted - it's "a great start", and only :) Of course you can see a lot of differences between my realization and your mockups, but 1. How notification must look? Can I use popovers for that purpose? 2. So, all feeds require topic? As you can see I've implemented "No topic"

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] Rss Visual Exploration

On 07/18/2013 09:08 AM, Michal Izydorczyk wrote: > Hello Guys > > I hope you're all good today. > > I just wanted to give you a quick update on the RSS Reader visual > exploration. > You can find more here > : http://design.canonical.com/2013/07/shorts-visual-exploration/ > > I hope you all like it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Sorry Joey, it's not available on 12.04. Florian Le 07/18/2013 10:26 AM, Joey Chan a écrit : Hi Michal, How can I install ubuntu-mobile-icons in 12.04 ? Seems it only available in 13.04 raring. I'm using Kubuntu 12.04 THX, Joey 2013/7/18 Michał Sawicz mailto:michal.saw...@canonical.com>>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Hi Michal, How can I install ubuntu-mobile-icons in 12.04 ? Seems it only available in 13.04 raring. I'm using Kubuntu 12.04 THX, Joey 2013/7/18 Michał Sawicz > W dniu 18.07.2013 14:50, mrqt...@gmail.com pisze: > > Yep, but I have no device and temporsry want to use some icons in our > > ap

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

W dniu 18.07.2013 14:50, mrqt...@gmail.com pisze: > Yep, but I have no device and temporsry want to use some icons in our > app now, to make it more beautiful and usable. So, Joey can grab icons > from device and share with us? =) You can just install them on your desktop - ubuntu-mobile-icons. T

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Hi Lisette =) Yep, but I have no device and temporsry want to use some icons in our app now, to make it more beautiful and usable. So, Joey can grab icons from device and share with us? =) Btw, Lisette, my primary question to is what you think about my implementation of your "Add reads" concep

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] [RSS Reader] Index0 and 1?

Hi Roman, I asked Florian about the icons, and he replied: - An icon theme exists and is installed by default on the phone. The package is ubuntu-mobile-icons which you can see the content of in /usr/share/icons/ubuntu-mobile/ A general purpose Icon class [1] exists in the toolkit so that y

[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Porting Updates

Hello everybody, here's a quick update on the touch porting front. The container flip was announced a few days ago [1] and work is under way to update the porting guide to reflect the new reality. Apart from that Sergio is working on bug 1201811 which should put us into a situation to flash othe