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A testing version of hydrogen has landed in feisty-proposed. To test,
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I have drafted a guide to contributing to MOTU efforts (1), and
would like to solicit review, editing and polish. My goal is to
replace the current Getting Started (2) and Hopeful (3) pages
entirely, and otherwise support the documentation we have in place.
As a secondary goal, I'd also
ed. Adding the "upgrade" tag will make it easier
to find the bug, and more likely that someone will update the package.
(1) http://bugs.debian.org/
(2) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Recipes/PackageUpdate
(3) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
(4) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+so
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atible, and the current
distributed version may not be in compliance (I'm not an expert, but I
believe there are patches in place without accompanying documentation
in COPYING). While the featureset is great, this may not be the best
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1: http://www.xinetd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/xinetd/COPYRIGHT?rev=1.1.1.1
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3: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html#xinetd
4: Thread Start(?): http://lis
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added point of a nice GUI to install things, wouldn't the use of
tasksel or debtags be a cleaner way to implement this, rather than
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> With our discussion earlier today about archive tools for universe, I
> thought I might post to here, and get an indication of what people think
> would be useful.
<...>
> * Running the cruft checker (this is already done, but is run manually
> a
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lent targets and goals, although I've found
that most of the answers I provide for the third are either already in
the wiki, and that new contributors may need much more help with
drafting documentation than with bug management and patching, as they
have not yet internalised the pr
Debian Archive Admin approval of the package can I request a
> synce of the package on #ubuntu-motu?
Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess for details
on requesting import from Debian. A bug will serve you much better
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and may not notice for some time. Perhaps this could be in addition
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working on the same package, ping them to coordinate your efforts. If
this isn't enough, we're not working as a team.
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part, any Ubuntu change that resulted in a sync doesn't really require
significant additional information to be posted, as any future Ubuntu
change is likely to be for an entirely different issue. Yet another
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the package, but downloading source is a low barrier for me: each
developers' environment differs, and for some it may be signficiantly
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duplication or work, and possibly involving conflicts due to changes
in similar places. Additionally, checking the package bugs page may
provide some guidance on additional things that might be easy to fix
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SRU page (1).
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demonstrate one's ability to work well with various packaging styles
(important for MOTU), and allows one to develop one's own opinion of
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is more a quick way to see if the work requested was done. I think it
would be better to spend time building a better set of common
reviewing scripts, and making these also available to packagers, so
that packages could be auto-reviewed prior to upload.
1
oach we're using now and
> people were actually updating it.
Absolutely true. In the beginning, there was a wiki page that
people were to list packages they wished to have packaged. These
entries were to include the upstream URL, licensing information, and a
URL for candidate pack
In the discussion of "Future of REVU and Debian Mentors" (1),
there has been further discussion of useful tools, which reminds me of
previous discussion of "
Archive tools/reports for universe" (2). There has also been
discussion of what we used to do, and what we should do, now split
into a c
"Jordan Mantha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Simply putting debian/ in a bzr branch with a file that has the URL
> for upstream tarball (which should be in a PPA) would work.
I'd suggest that this file should be debian/watch, or, where
required, defined in get-orig-source: in debian/rules, ra
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> advocated offline after a few further adjustments.
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eria by which the prospective is
judged. Perhaps mentors could volunteer to assist with either of
these transitions (or split slots between them). This would allow for
faster turnover of slots, as the Contributor often does not need as
much personal attention once basic patching and packaging has
at we have never actually resolved
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1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/DesktopFiles
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believes this should be advertised more aggressively, in light of
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reduce our ability to keep the queue small.
Rather, I would invite those interested in review (and not MOTU) to
take a look at candidates: the majority are in good shape, but some
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1: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-contributors
2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-backports-testers/
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they all in use?
ity given to review requests and
packages that are ready to upload.
> In the meantime, request for reviews can be posted, or should I wait
> for it?
Reviews may be requested at any time, but requests made on
non-REVU days will be handled on an as-available basis, and may not
receive immediate re
. This will probably avoid unexpected
> regressions.
This is already documented in the SRU policy, with the phrase "the
patch must be as small and unintrusive as possible". I do not believe
this needs further stress in the documentation.
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onal patch to Ubuntu is required in order to address the
underlying issue.
Also, the most recent release (Ubuntu 7.10) contains util-vserver
0.30.213-1, which may be an improvement, and Debian now has 0.30.214-3
in unstable, which version (or newer) will be the base for the next
Ubuntu rel
her things that you might try.
1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing
3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad/GettingInvolved
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I'd like to hear others opinions as to the utility of this proposed
status. If there is consensus, I intend on coordinating with the MOTU
launchpad liaison to request inclusion in a future release.
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> "Deferred"
>
> This status indicates that while this bug is valid, and there is
> sufficient information to understand the cause, there is no current
> intention to fix the problem by the project against which the bug is
> reported. Deferred i
http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe/html
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13: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=patch
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On 10/31/07, Emmet Hikory wrote:
> MOTUs, Contributors, and other interested parties,
>
> As Hardy will be a Long Term Support release, there are
> significant benefits to aggressively pursuing QA. I've compiled the
> following list of QA goals: I'd encourage anyone
On 11/1/07, Michael Bienia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 2007-10-31 12:37:28 +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote:
> > Hardy should have no Not Built from Source, Failed To Build From
> > Source, or Outdated packages:
>
> What should happen to packages which still depend on pack
uch a bug task, please
clearly indicate which task is being addressed in your comment when
requesting sponsorship, as otherwise the sponsoring team is easily
overwhelmed by the number of tasks.
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last, likely
representing rejections or requests for rework, and so not requiring
immediate attention.
Tracking uploader comments vs. reviewer comments is important, and
uploaders often comment to explain special aspects of the package, or
other notes after a new upload, or after an advocati
Stefan Potyraのメッセージに:
> Am Sonntag 04 November 2007 15:53:39 schrieb Emmet Hikory:
> > First:
> > Oldest-first list of packages where there is at least one
> > advocation, and any comments after the advocation are by the uploader.
> >
> > Second:
> >
, and 3) MOTUs present in the channel may
oversee the review, adding comments where appropriate.
I used this model as a contributor, and believe both that I
provided real help to the packagers, and that I learned a lot from
corrections by MOTUs when I provided suboptimal recommendations.
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> this still?
I think it's fair that anything already uploaded doesn't absorb
the requirement while in-flight. On the other hand, adding a TEST
CASE stanza may speed the testing cycle, and increase the chance that
the package will be applied to
adopt this process. StableReleaseUpdates has been updated to reflect
this decision.
REVU Reviewing Guidelines
Emmet Hikory proposed a set of Reviewing Requirements for REVU
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review criteria, it was agreed that the criteria should be
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> At the recent MOTU Meeting, a set of guidelines for new package
> review was reviewed. This list is meant to supplement reviewers base
> opinions when reviewing packages, and provide for a relatively stable
> set of criteria when packagers are deciding if th
that none of the
current active sponsors feels comfortable sponsoring. In the event of
such tag use, a search URL for these bugs will be posted to this
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than something like "if you worked on this patch, you shouldn't
upload", or "please be sure to apply the same sponsoring guidelines to
your mentees as for anyone else", as both the latter are far too
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reviewer should explicitly
> > agree to the variance from the condition prior to advocating the
> > package for inclusion in the archive.
>
> That's pretty obvious imho. Also I have a very deep aversions about any
> guidelines or especially language reference manuals (I'm looking at you, VHDL
> lrm!) which need to define what words mean. But I guess this is pretty much
> tied to my personal aversion to the aforementioned language reference manual.
It was added after a specific query in the initial drafting
process. I'm happy to drop it if nobody feels it's required.
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d.
If there are no objections to the sponsors use and advocacy of the
described procedure, I'll update the various places in the wiki that
refer to updating package to a new upstream to reflect this procedure.
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>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/Merging
I'll second this, and further ask anyone working on their own
merge who finds this page to be confusing to ask questions in the (to
be added) "Questions" section at the bottom of the page, to help
im
upon,
Further, I'd be interested to hear if there are either other sevices
not listed above, or additional alternative services indicated as
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Please find below the minutes of the recent MOTU meeting (1);
Updates to the universe SRU Policy
Emmet Hikory opened discussion referencing the Technical Board
decision(2) that a refreshed policy was required from MOTU with the
following proposal:
1. ~motu-sru shall be restored as an approval
ation,
such mentoring would be available, and assigned at that time.
The original proposal, including a description of the current
state, goals for the change, and specific implementation details is
available from the mailing list archives (1).
1:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu-mento
On Sunday 25 November 2007 19:52, Cesare Tirabassi wrote:
> Let me repeat once again, you haven't got any numbers simply because there
> are no such numbers. We have kept no record beside those which I pointed
> out to you.
On Nov 26, 2007 10:56 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> How many people that we
hink that we'd do best to limit
membership of teams like ~motu-uvf and ~motu-sru to members of
~ubuntu-dev, as otherwise the workflow becomes awkward: if the
proposer cannot upload, and the approver cannot upload, how is the
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> You
> have to find a sponsor.
Hmm.. Interesting point. Objection withdrawn, although I suspect
non-MOTU candidates have a higher burden of evidence in order to be
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om previous release cycles, and does not represent an official
statement of MOTU policy. Please feel free to disagree if you know
better, or add to a MOTU Meeting Agenda if an official statement is
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27;t be merged, or that people should not continue to
coordinate merges as a team.
On Dec 12, 2007 9:59 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 12:56:22AM +0900, Emmet Hikory wrote:
> > Further, if you were waiting for a sync, now is the time to push the merge
> > in: there&
bug report including information on how to adjust the
builds: this will help the developers get the solution in place
sooner.
1:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10077818/buildlog_ubuntu-hardy-i386.sbaz_1.20-2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
2:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10078607/buildlog_ubuntu-har
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1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/guichan
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diff.gz files. ==
Emmet Hikory opened discussion reporting that interdiff files may be
difficult to use even with updated documentation, that
[:ColinWatson:Colin Watson] had indicated that the diff.gz contained
most of the useful information, and that an acceptable pacakge could
be
t sound simple to fix. If you're up
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l now, given
the holiday backlog, more people joining the ranks of the sponsors is
always appreciated.
Thank you.
1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors
2: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Sponsorship/SponsorsQueue
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On the other hand, as a general solution, filing a bug is much
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equesting review of a patch or
new package candidate, any review that does a good job is helpful: in
the worst case, it receives confirmation that it is good, which may
interest someone able to advocate who was otherwise not looking at the
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arding the NEW notifications so that we can all better track what
is entering NEW from REVU.
I believe this especially useful as these packages typically are
not maintained beyond Ubuntu, and need our special attention.
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If you'd like to raise anything for discussion, please add an entry to
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Attendance is open to all, for discussion of any items that impact the
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qextserialport
jodviewer
awn-extras-applets
urbanterror
opensg
If you have half an hour, and could look one of these over to see
if it is suitable, please do so.
Thank you.
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archive admins to process NEW? Also, any suggestions for a last push?
It would be unfortunate to have a package be all ready on REVU and not
make the archive due to too few reviewers (Emmet Hikory)
If you would like to raise anything else for discussion, please add it
to the agenda (1).
As a reminder
tem just scraped Launchpad data and little
> user intervention would be required.
I'd recommend extending your expiry date rather than generating a
new key, if you remain confident your key has not been compromised.
If you do have a new key, just request a keyring sync in #ubuntu-motu
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etime before the hardy release, one of the usages of
/usr/bin/falcon will be renamed. As this conflict has now been raised
and is under discussion, it should neither block review of other
aspects of the falconpl package, nor block inclusion if all other
conditions are met.
1; https://lists.ubunt
nd any problems
encountered likely need to be addressed, whether to support your
maintenance of the package before joining MOTU, or to support your
maintenance external to MOTU.
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applet (so far) is that it has a context menu
which enables you to launch a terminal using a particular profile.
thunar-svn-plugin:
The Thunar SVN Plugin adds Subversion actions to the context menu of thunar.
Thanks for helping with REVU day.
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Updated packages for today: 40
In total, we need 107 advocates to get them in, which is one each, and
someone needs to do two. Given that a lot of people are busy with
other things for feature freeze, please try to do at least two or
three (or more if you like).
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you can upload
promptly in response to commentary. This is the last organised effort
to get things in before FeatureFreeze: things not uploaded this time
are likely good candidates for hardy+1.
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interested parties should be involved for hardy+1
starting much earlier. pre-summit would be good, but even pre-DIF
would be acceptable, assuming that interested parties had already been
preparing their agendas.
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(1). You might take a look at that source, and consider
whether there are patches that would improve it. If so, these are
best submitted in a bug.
1: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hugin
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st way to ask for a
sync is to request via IRC on #ubuntu-motu on freenode (although I've
synced again now).
Please be aware that this is very late for package inclusion in
hardy: you will need significant interest from MOTUs to get this
package thorough REVU prior to feature freeze.
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