Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

> Op 11-07-12 17:21, Nicolas Delvaux schreef: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> AFAIK Quantal will add an option to use old fashion menus AKA "locally >> integrated menus" instead of the global menu (well, it was originally >> planned for Precise...). >> >> Top Bar will also work in this case. >> It is more

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

> Op 11-07-12 17:21, Nicolas Delvaux schreef: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> AFAIK Quantal will add an option to use old fashion menus AKA "locally >> integrated menus" instead of the global menu (well, it was originally >> planned for Precise...). >> >> Top Bar will also work in this case. >> It is more

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Many users did not like the global menu, so it is good they can choose between the global menu or locally integrated menus in Quantal. See http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/01/unity-global-menu-to-become-optional. If this will be realized in Quantal, I definitely think it a good idea to call the g

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Hi everyone, AFAIK Quantal will add an option to use old fashion menus AKA "locally integrated menus" instead of the global menu (well, it was originally planned for Precise...). Top Bar will also work in this case. It is more generic and it also gives a 'location hint' to the user (how will

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Hello, everyone. I spoke with Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) on IRC today and asked about the terminology for various UI elements (including the spelling, spacing, and capitalization). The canonical (pun intended) list follows: * Launcher (capitalized) * home button (lowercase) * workspace switcher (

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

On 12/07/12 10:58, Phil Bull wrote: > > (3) Validated by user testing This point is the most important of them all by a long way. If you have tested with real users, that gives the answer we need. Paddy ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-m

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

On 12 July 2012 10:58, Phil Bull wrote: > In my experience, this sort of discussion goes round in circles, and no-one > ever makes a decision because no-one feels they have the authority. That > being the case, I humbly suggest that you defer to the upstream GNOME > recommendation, "top bar", as j

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Hi all, On Thu 12 Jul 2012 10:12:30 BST, Paddy Landau wrote: > Additionally, per the GNOME docs style guide, menubar should be one word, not two "Menubar" as one word is really ugly. :-( I'm not sure that we should be mangling English. Are we perhaps looking in the wrong places? Surely there

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

> > Additionally, per the GNOME docs style guide, menubar should be one > word, not two "Menubar" as one word is really ugly. :-( I'm not sure that we should be mangling English. Are we perhaps looking in the wrong places? Surely there is someone or some team who decides the standards within Can

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Op 12-07-12 03:06, Kevin Godby schreef: Another issue to consider is whether or not we should capitalize any of those terms. Currently, the Ubuntu Manual capitalizes Launcher and Dash. The Ubuntu docs at appear to be inconsistent in their treatment. Additionally, per t

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > On 11 July 2012 16:25, wrote: > >> I believe our path to a resolution lies not in what >we< think is right, >> or what a majority of a group thinks is right, but what the end user thinks >> is right. >> >> Let me explain. >> >> There are

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

On 11 July 2012 16:25, wrote: > I believe our path to a resolution lies not in what >we< think is right, > or what a majority of a group thinks is right, but what the end user thinks > is right. > > Let me explain. > > There are several shades of blue (electric blue, navy blue, indigo > blue...to

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

I believe our path to a resolution lies not in what >we< think is right, or what a majority of a group thinks is right, but what the end user thinks is right. Let me explain. There are several shades of blue (electric blue, navy blue, indigo blue...to name a few). But generally, these vari

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

On 11/07/12 14:46, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote: > > But I would still say: who has decided on this? And do we agree? I > hope I do not sound arrogant, all I want is to have a clear answer. I think we're all in agreement with you, Hannie. The big point is that the manual must be clear and obvious to the

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

With more reactions coming in, I think "menu bar" is the favorite now. The explanation that this bar holds mainly menu's is a valid one. With the term "top bar" one refers to the location of the bar (at the top of the screen), while the term "menu bar" says more about the contents of the bar. @

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Hi Paddy, Thanks for starting a discussion on this on the forums. It is quite interesting to read the suggestions, one of them particularly: are there plans to redo http://askubuntu.com/questions/10228/whats-the-right-terminology-for-unitys-ui-elements ?Here the answer to the question "Is the

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

2012/7/11 Jeremy Bicha > On 10 July 2012 04:49, Hannie Dumoleyn > wrote: > > As a member of the ubuntu manual team I started a discussion on how we > > should call this "thing" at the top of our screen. > > As a translator of the official Ubuntu documentation (yelp) I noticed > that > > the word

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

On 10 July 2012 04:49, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote: > As a member of the ubuntu manual team I started a discussion on how we > should call this "thing" at the top of our screen. > As a translator of the official Ubuntu documentation (yelp) I noticed that > the word "panel" had been changed to "menu bar"

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

The "official" name for it when Unity was developed was "the panel" and I don't think that has changed. Perhaps we should consult the Unity developers before we change it to "top bar". On 10 July 2012 16:01, Hannie Dumoleyn wrote: > Hi, > I am glad with the reactions so far. Personally, I pref

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

> P.s.: since I started this discussion on several mailing lists, I > would appreciate it if people send their reactions to all. I wouldn't be on all the lists, but you have my permission to use my ideas freely on the other lists if you think it will help. I have asked the question on the Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] top bar, menu bar, panel or top panel

Hi, I am glad with the reactions so far. Personally, I prefer the word "Top bar" because it contains both the menu and the so called notification area. Should people from ubuntu-docs agree that this is better than "menu bar", we could make "Top bar" the standard term. The most important thing i