Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

2010/11/8 Khaled Hosny > On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:31:42PM +, Denise N. Wood wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I will be honest -- I haven't contributed ANYTHING yet. This is > > entirely because I haven't had the chance to sit down and fiddle with > > LaTeX and didn't know what to work on even if

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

On Thu, Nov 04, 2010 at 10:31:42PM +, Denise N. Wood wrote: > Hi all, > > I will be honest -- I haven't contributed ANYTHING yet. This is > entirely because I haven't had the chance to sit down and fiddle with > LaTeX and didn't know what to work on even if I did. > > There was an idea that B

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Tom :) From: Chris Woollard To: Manual mailing list Cc: ubuntu-l10n...@lists.ubuntu.com; Ubuntu-translators Sent: Fri, 5 November, 2010 10:46:28 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations I have been thinking quite a lot

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

+1 Hannie Op 05-11-10 11:51, Jonas Endersch schreef: Am 05.11.2010 11:46, schrieb Chris Woollard: In addition to the LTS manual, it might be worth doing a New Features guide every release that just contains changes since the LTS. Obviously this would be a lot shorter than a full manual release

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Am 05.11.2010 11:46, schrieb Chris Woollard: In addition to the LTS manual, it might be worth doing a New Features guide every release that just contains changes since the LTS. Obviously this would be a lot shorter than a full manual release, so should be easier to do. Maybe just containing an

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

ge - > > From: "Benjamin Humphrey" > > To: "Manual mailing list" > > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:50 PM > > Subject: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching > translations > > > > > >> Hey guys, > >>

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

uickshot server to work again). > Regards, > Hannie Dumoleyn > > - Original Message - > From: "Benjamin Humphrey" > To: "Manual mailing list" > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:50 PM > Subject: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditch

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Hi all, I will be honest -- I haven't contributed ANYTHING yet. This is entirely because I haven't had the chance to sit down and fiddle with LaTeX and didn't know what to work on even if I did. There was an idea that Benjamin had mentioned, ages ago, about an integrated website where a user coul

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

nnie Lafeber-Dumoleyn Cc: ubuntu-l10n...@lists.ubuntu.com; Ubuntu-translators ; Benjamin Humphrey ; ubuntu-manual@lists.launchpad.net Sent: Mon, 1 November, 2010 12:02:19 Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations One other thing i forgot to mention is that i

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Hi all, My email was being wonky today. Below is a response to this recent discussion, sent (or attempted) earlier today. I don't know if it went out. (If it didn't -- thank goodness! I took the time to fix some embarrassing spelling errors.) == I agree with the general consensus tha

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

I agree with the general consensus that reducing the number of annual releases will not solve our problems (in fact, like others, I believe such a move will only exacerbate those problems and introduce others). Our most pressing problems are infrastructural, as we've previously discussed. Barrier

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

If the team is inactive for two years ... "the train has gone far away". The .04 release sounds good to me, the Google Τraslator sucks for lengthy texts so... let this job for translators :P. Obviously what the team need is *more people* to work as editors and others posts, so the machine called pr

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Hi there, I think one manual per two years is not enough, because many changes will come with the versions between LTS versions. So it would be a great idea to schedule the release a few weeks after ubuntu release date so there is more time for writing and checking after UI freeze. The translat

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

t; - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Humphrey" < > humphre...@gmail.com> > To: "Manual mailing list" > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:50 PM > Subject: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching > translations > > > > Hey guy

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

010 10:50 PM Subject: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations Hey guys, I don't have much time to write a lengthy email so this is going to be to the point. As everyone will know, the last 4 months in this team have been terrible - we've been getting nothing do

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

I don't think canonical would either, i will let you guys know what happens with the other manual in terms of a sprint. The thing with the other manual's sprint is that there are only about 7-8 of us who are working on it, some of those people are Aq, Rick Spencer, Didier Roche, me, another guy who

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Ryan, A canonical funded sprint would be totally kickass but I'm not sure we can convince them to pay for it at this stage. Would be awesome though. Benjamin interesting.co.nz ohso.co On 1/11/2010 1:13 PM, "Chris Woollard" wrote: > That would probably be useful. > > I am up for it. > > Chris >

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

*Hi Ben,* Seems good but its kind of disappointing not releasing the Mnual every 6 months. We can also keep a copy that can be read (without download) online, using the "Google translator" widget, readers can change the languag

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

That would probably be useful. I am up for it. Chris On 1 November 2010 00:09, Ryan Macnish wrote: > Oh yeah guys, i forgot to mention what happened at the UDS-N session for > the developer manual (i was remote participating), one of us there suggested > that we have a face-to-face canonica

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

All I know is that I have tried really hard to get people to help out. Sure, I have had my own life to deal with as well (Which has also be busy), so I have not always been around. But I have tried to get people to help edit / proof read. I have even posted new builds of the pdf after changes have

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

> > So in conclusion, i don't think we should release less often, we should > just work to improve our workflow and the workflow of new contributors > whether they be authors, editors or translators. Also i do remember that > Ilya was around a lot during the lucid cycle sort of being an editor in >

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

I'm not sure if an annual release cycle will work much better. We still have the time issues. We can only really start early when we know about upcoming changes - for example we can get started on Unity stat. On Sun, 2010-10-31 at 17:44 -0500, Kevin Godby wrote: > Hey, Ben. > > On Sun, Oct 31, 2

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Continuing on from what Kevin said, i also agree that releasing less often is not going to help at all, i just think we should not do any more "second editions" which was one thing that set the maverick editing way back as well as many of the translators who are still busy translating e2. The othe

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Hey, Ben. On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: * snip * > Rather than see the team disintegrate, which would be terrible, I > figure we need to slim our goals down a bit and perhaps give us a > greater time span to work in. Hence I propose one (or both) of the > following: >

[Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Hey guys, I don't have much time to write a lengthy email so this is going to be to the point. As everyone will know, the last 4 months in this team have been terrible - we've been getting nothing done, the manual for Maverick is still not out and we're not moving forward. This is combination of a