Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-14 Thread Matthew East
Hi Benjamin, On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Find one place (apart from where I mention the "Official Ubuntu Book") where > the word "official" appears on our wiki. Just to prove that I've read your wiki pages, the bit I had in mind was this FAQ: QUOTE Is this offic

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-14 Thread Alex Lourie
I could not say any better. Phil, you are the master of the words. Alex. On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Phil Bull wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > > On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 22:05 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > > Thanks for the feedback. I know it may seem like we are trying to do > > the same thing

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-14 Thread Phil Bull
Hi Benjamin, On Thu, 2010-01-14 at 22:05 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Thanks for the feedback. I know it may seem like we are trying to do > the same thing as you, but in all reality we aren't. I think that this whole matter could be put to rest if you explain exactly how what you are doing

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-14 Thread Kelvin Gardiner
Hi, I'd like to give a brief second / third view point. I'm am currently writing part of this manual, I've read the project wiki etc. I agree with Mathew and others that think there is definitely a need for a community produced printable manual to help new users. This project is needed. I

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-14 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
*"You're quite right that there is no concept of "official" in the Ubuntu community and that the word is relatively meaningless. But you do bandy the word around quite a bit in your wiki pages"* Find one place (apart from where I mention the "Official Ubuntu Book") where the word "official" appear

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-14 Thread Matthew East
Hi, On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:33 AM, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > If you don't believe that this project will be successful, then > unfortunately that is your problem - I wrote a very nice email to the docs > team expressing interest to collaborate and offered you basically unlimited > use of our r

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-13 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
I'm not going to bother typing out a huge email to answer your criticism. I'm a bit too busy for that right now. The wiki contains more than enough information for you anyway. If you don't believe that this project will be successful, then unfortunately that is your problem - I wrote a very nice e

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-13 Thread Matthew East
Hi, I agree with Phil. At the moment the boundaries of this project haven't been as carefully addressed as I'd like, and I think that this is the reason that this project has started up as a separate project rather than something which comes under the general umbrella of the Ubuntu documentation t

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-13 Thread Phil Bull
Hi Benjamin, This project is still worrying me, because I think you're making the same mistakes that lots of people have made in the past. * I worry that the project is not defined very well. It covers so many different topics, and I can't find any thorough definitions of wh

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-12 Thread Adi Roiban
În data de Mi, 13-01-2010 la 09:26 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey a scris: > Hello, Hi, I am happy to see such efforts. Hope it will shape up nicely. [snip] > As you may have noticed, we've received quite a lot of contributors, > interest and media attention. In turn, we are definitely on track for > a

[Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Hello, Firstly, let me apologize - I believe the Manual and Docs Team may have got off on the wrong foot. I'd just like to make it clear that we are not in competition with the docs team, and we aren't trying to insinuate that you aren't doing your job correctly. I've changed some of the justifica