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Wiki page ToC and blueprints now all reflect the new Table of Contents.
Just waiting on Joe to update the LaTeX stuff.
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New table of contents up on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-
manual/TableOfContents
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Okay I'm going to start changing over the blueprints and wiki to the new
ToC.
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2010/1/10 Martin Kaba
> - Vish is right when he says "There is a profound fear among new users
> that Linux==terminal knowledge is a must. Not mentioning the terminal or
> giving it importance in the simple guide will ease the user's fear a bit."
> I think the more you get used to U
- Vish is right when he says "There is a profound fear among new users that
Linux==terminal knowledge is a must. Not mentioning the terminal or giving it
importance in the simple guide will ease the user's fear a bit."
I think the more you get used to Ubuntu the more you like the CLI, beginners
+1 from me. I think the new plan will work as a good introduction.
Perhaps, like JaminDay says, we can do something about Chapter 7 not
being a pure introduction to the terminal, but perhaps a task-oriented
one? What if we merge chapter 7 and 8 and just create a
"troubleshooting" chapter, which st
I think the new structure is good, and seems to progress in an intuitive
way. Ie starting with an explanation of the installation process, to
navigating your new system and it's default layout/software, to slowly
learning how to configure and set it up to the way you want, add more
programs, and th
Vish: The advanced section is basically going to be from Chapter 7
onwards, so technically the terminal stuff is in the advanced section.
Yeah I forgot Pitivi was on the default install, this is just a mistake.
It won't be in our final extra apps list.
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Scratch that: after a recent Update Pitivi is *already* included in
Lucid by default . So it will be in Alpha 2.
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Also to note: pitivi is planned to be in the default install. Is it
justified to have it in chapter 9 ?
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I would suggest that we *not* even have a chapter on the terminal
[chapter 7]. Defer it to the advanced section , where it would serve as
an introduction to the terminal usage.
For a few reasons:
- There is a profound fear among new users that Linux==terminal knowledge is a
must. Not mentioning
^^
This is what Joe Burgess, Thomas Cantera and I came up with in the
meeting on Saturday. See the logs for more detail.
Basically we think we've got a Table of Contents that covers everything
we presently have, and some more. It's not too long, it's not too
confusing and it gets harder as it adv
Ch 1 & 2 => prologue
Ch 3 => Ch 1
Anthing on which version, goes to Ch. 10
Gnome part of Ch. 4 => Ch 2
Plus stuff on nautilus
Ch.3 Titled Applications contains
Rhytmbox
F-Spot
OpenOffice
Tomboy
Empathy
Firefox
Evolution
Totem
ubuntu one
Include a note on restricted extras when it first comes up
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I like Ilya's second proposal, but Joe is right - we don't need to go
through every single application that's in the default install.
I don't like how our whole advanced section is condensed into two
chapters though. We need to combine some of the middle stuff and then
have it balance out, maybe s
Ok, here is piece of thought.
I do think we have to re-organize the manual. I think Ilya is proposing
an interesting arrangement, but that Benjamin also has a point in
keeping the number of chapters low. But I don't think we should do it
because people might not want to read the manual as a whole,
The terminal really is a place where only people are really into linux
go. The idea of splitting up the book into the two sections is very
smart and what is required so that we can give a user a quick overview
of everything, keeping in mind that they don't care about a lot of
advanced topics. For
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> What Ilya has described despite being perhaps a little hard work is
> definitely worth it. It makes the project appear to be much more of a
&
What Ilya has described despite being perhaps a little hard work is
definitely worth it. It makes the project appear to be much more of a
professional layout and definitely helps break down the learning stages
for an Ubuntu Novice. Ilya's reform gets a +1 from me.
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@Benjamin,
I am not really tied to the number of chapters. For example, Chapter 1
and Chapter 2 are not really long enough to be "chapters" in their own
right, and can be considered more of a Prologue. There's also a way to
reorganize my proposed set into fewer chapters, such as for example:
Prol
Tacantara,
Yes I hear what you are saying and can see where you are coming from.
However remember that we are aiming this manual to be friendly to new
people coming fresh from windows/mac or who aren't very tech-savvy. A
large number of these people will have absolutely no interest in
learning scr
One of the best things (IMO) that separates Ubuntu from Windows is the
flexibility offered by the CLI. I personally wish I knew more about it,
but I'm taking the time to do just that. GUI is a good way to break in
new users, but we can't push the CLI into the area of "advanced
operations." That
Ilya, what you're proposing is a good idea, but it we're talking about a
complete reorganization.
How will we find people to cover the extra 5 chapters?
Would it not be better to have Chapter 4 quite a large chapter, with
things like "getting online" "using your peripherals" etc as sections in
ch
I don't think that this rearranging is enough. If you look at the
current TOC structure, we start out with a bunch of very general
chapters that really are introductory in nature:
1. An introduction to the manual
2. About Ubuntu in general
3. How to get Ubuntu installed
then we have the one and o
Ok I have rearranged the content in the latex files as per above, and
will change the TOC on the wiki page to reflect the new structure.
Currently Chapter 7 is now called "Terminal and System Maintenance" but
we can possibly come up with a better title than that. Also jmburgess
this affects you as
Makes sense to me.
Let's make it happen!
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