Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
>> bzr branch lp:quickshot >> >> to get the current quickshot codebase ... On 06/09/2013 10:04 PM, Thomas Corwin wrote: > I forgot I could do that.. I never thought of it really. Haha. But I > will do that once I fix my Ubuntu installation. (Windows 8 and Ubuntu > do not go together well when yo

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Thomas Corwin
> I'm slightly confused... quickshot is (or was) a "Quickly" app in > Python, not a C# app. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly . Why start > over using a totally different language and ask for "project files"? I have more experience with C# than I do Python. And I'm sorry for using the term "p

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 09:32 PM, Thomas Corwin wrote: > And I have not looked at the Quickshot stuff yet. > > Also, don't expect a lot for this release of the manual. I'm a > Windows developer trying to use Mono C# environment. The application > will be able to take a full screenshot, and a specific wind

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Separate Lubuntu manual bzr repository?

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 09:12 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: > We could either create a branch called 'lubuntu-saucy' or you could > create a separate project (e.g., lubuntu-manual) and create your own > bzr repositories under that. The first option sounds good to me. > If we create a repository under the ubuntu-

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Thomas Corwin
Kevin, > Hey, Thomas. > > The CC licenses aren't the best to use for code. I'd choose an Open > Source license instead. I will change it when I finish the application. > Also, you shouldn't need a PPA until you're ready to release the > finished application. Oh. Alright. I didn't know if I

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 08:53 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Jonathan Marsden > wrote: >> But why? What is the benefit, ... > Historical reasons, primarily. > Since we've always had problems with the Ubuntu/Debian packages in > the past, it's become easier to just recommend

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Separate Lubuntu manual bzr repository?

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Godby
Hello, Jonathan. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > I ran into a slight problem: we would need to create a new separate > project in order to do that, as far as I can see. ... > (A) Create a subfolder within the existing ubuntu-manual bzr > repository for Lubuntu; > >

[Ubuntu-manual] Separate Lubuntu manual bzr repository?

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
I looked at creating a new bzr repository on Launchpad for the Lubuntu Manual variant which we hope to start creating very soon. I ran into a slight problem: we would need to create a new separate project in order to do that, as far as I can see. Given: 19:41 godbyk, phillw, Yorvyk may I sugg

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Godby
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Jonathan Marsden wrote: > But why? What is the benefit, assuming texlive is only being used for > Ubuntu Manual, of using unpackaged Tex Live 2013 over Ubuntu Raring > packages? What works better, or noticeably faster, or produces higher > quality manuals in the

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 05:55 PM, Kevin Godby wrote: > Ah, okay. You're running TeX Live 2011. tlmgr doesn't let you upgrade > from 2011 to 2012, so you have to download the TeX Live 2012 installer > and run through the installation process again. > > Since TeX Live 2013 will be released sometime in the ne

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Jeremy Bicha
On 9 June 2013 23:30, Thomas Corwin wrote: > As I said at the meeting, I am trying to remake and revive the old Quickshot > application. I have renamed it to Quickshot 2.0, and the license will be CC > BY-SA (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike). I haven't finished creating > an Alpha version,

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Godby
Hey, Thomas. On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Thomas Corwin wrote: > As I said at the meeting, I am trying to remake and revive the old Quickshot > application. I have renamed it to Quickshot 2.0, and the license will be CC > BY-SA (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike). I haven't finished cr

[Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot 2.0 - Creating a PPA

2013-06-09 Thread Thomas Corwin
Hello everyone! As I said at the meeting, I am trying to remake and revive the old Quickshot application. I have renamed it to Quickshot 2.0, and the license will be CC BY-SA (Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike). I haven't finished creating an Alpha version, but I still need help creating

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Minor bug in install-pkgs.sh, and a new automated install script

2013-06-09 Thread Jonathan Marsden
On 06/09/2013 01:54 AM, Carsten Gerlach wrote: > Am 09.06.2013 04:00, schrieb Jonathan Marsden: >> I've also created ubuntu-manual-dev.sh ... > Great work! It runs without any problems. Thanks :) > 1. What is the meaning of the syntax in WORKDIR=${1:-~/projects}? > Normally I would use WORKDIR

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Godby
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: > When I run > > sudo tlmgr update --list > > I get > > tlmgr: package repository > http://mirror.ox.ac.uk/sites/ctan.org/systems/texlive/tlnet > /usr/local/bin/tlmgr: The TeX Live versions supported by the repository > (2012--2012) > do not in

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Tony Pursell
On 9 June 2013 23:54, Kevin Godby wrote: > On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Tony Pursell > wrote: > > I suppose that the advantage of the packaged version is that it gets > updated > > (if there is an updated version) at least every time you update to a new > > Ubuntu version and possibly in betw

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, may not be related, but with one of the tools we can make use of, Virtual Box, was very outdated in the repos. It took a bit of asking around, (read as begging :P ) to get the updated version into the repo. If the manual team are keen on using texlive, it needs a sponsor for debian repos. Once

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Kevin Godby
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Tony Pursell wrote: > I suppose that the advantage of the packaged version is that it gets updated > (if there is an updated version) at least every time you update to a new > Ubuntu version and possibly in between Ubuntu versions. I installed texlive > for the pre

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Tony Pursell
I suppose that the advantage of the packaged version is that it gets updated (if there is an updated version) at least every time you update to a new Ubuntu version and possibly in between Ubuntu versions. I installed texlive for the precise manual, using the instructions on the website, and I hav

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Upstream vs packaged texlive

2013-06-09 Thread Patrick Dickey
I'm sure Kevin or Hannie will reply to this also, but here's my .02 worth. Awhile back, the packaged version was limited and behind compared to the upstream version. Plus we also make in different languages, so I'm not sure how well the packaged version fares with those. Whether that's still the

[Ubuntu-manual] Meeting June 8th log + minutes

2013-06-09 Thread Hannie Dumoleyn
Here are the links to the meeting log and minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2013/ubuntu-manual.2013-06-08-18.11.moin.txt http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-manual/2013/ubuntu-manual.2013-06-08-18.11.html ___ Mailing lis

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Minor bug in install-pkgs.sh, and a new automated install script

2013-06-09 Thread Carsten Gerlach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Am 09.06.2013 04:00, schrieb Jonathan Marsden: > I've also created ubuntu-manual-dev.sh which is an attempt to start > from a freshly installed Ubuntu or Lubuntu machine and set things > up for authoring or editing of Ubuntu Manual, assuming texli