Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi Jason, I'm sort of aware that wget can 'suck' in web sites (e.g. wiki pages). I have not used it, but it does seem up to the job. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=153766 and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=321434 I do appreciate that room is tight on a CD, but if the images

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi, i'm still a bit puzzled (normal for me) Firefox Chromium Thunderbird FileZilla etc. All are programmes that require the net. What about AbiWord, Gnumeric, or even Open Office? As all installations of *buntu have a browser then imho, putting the most up to date wiki page on for that applicati

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Jason Cook
I defiantly agree that the *primary* development should be done on the web based content, *but* there should be a way to have the docs available offline. The way I recommended would work well, but would be *very* difficult. On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Kyle Nitzsche wrote: > Hi Jason, > > On 0

[Ubuntu-manual] [UCLP] [Reminder] Collaberation meeting

2010-07-09 Thread Luke-Jennings
Hello, Sorry if this is twice I used the wrong e-mail address If you have missed my irc reminders, the collaboration meeting is on Saturday 10th 8pm utc, your time here [1] . If you are coming please add yourself to the list so that we have a bit of a guide [2], you can also add agenda items the

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] German edition

2010-07-09 Thread Daniel Schury
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > Firstly double-check the list : http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/translationtodo . Will do it (again) 10. Translate the following strings and email them to the mailing list or Kevin: a. "applications" -- used in the index entry => Anwendungen b. "c

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Kyle Nitzsche
Hi Jason, On 07/09/2010 04:08 PM, Jason Cook wrote: The inclusion of on-disk documentation should be up to the user and be "package-wide". Having a "documentation" package that has the documentation for all installed applications. The way this would work (at least in theory) is: * on inst

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Jason Cook
The inclusion of on-disk documentation should be up to the user and be "package-wide". Having a "documentation" package that has the documentation for all installed applications. The way this would work (at least in theory) is: - on instalation of this package - finds all installed packag

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Kyle Nitzsche
Hi Jim, On 07/09/2010 03:38 PM, Jim Campbell wrote: On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jason Cook > wrote: The reason it may be a problem is that often when I don't have an internet connection, I need to know how to use an applications that have not yet lea

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Jim Campbell
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jim Campbell wrote: > > > On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jason Cook wrote: > >> The reason it may be a problem is that often when I don't have an internet >> connection, I need to know how to use an applications that have not yet >> learned how to use or am exper

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Jim Campbell
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Jason Cook wrote: > The reason it may be a problem is that often when I don't have an internet > connection, I need to know how to use an applications that have not yet > learned how to use or am experiencing problems with. Though most are > self-explanatory, some

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Kyle Nitzsche
Hi Jason, On 07/09/2010 02:50 PM, Jason Cook wrote: The reason it may be a problem is that often when I don't have an internet connection, I need to know how to use an applications that have not yet learned how to use or am experiencing problems with. Though most are self-explanatory, some app

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Jason Cook
The reason it may be a problem is that often when I don't have an internet connection, I need to know how to use an applications that have not yet learned how to use or am experiencing problems with. Though most are self-explanatory, some app are more complex and, when using this method, I can't us

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Shaun McCance
On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 12:00 -0400, Kyle Nitzsche wrote: > Hello Shaun and all. > > On 07/07/2010 07:34 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: > > A greater disconnect between applications and their help. Our > > traditional help consists of islands of documents that are > > largely separate from the application

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Kyle Nitzsche
Hi Jason? On 07/09/2010 06:32 AM, Jason Cook wrote: I think that a cloud based solution is a great idea. But for mobile users this would a problem. Why do you think a web/cloud-based help system a problem for mobile users? One possible solution would be to include *all* of the content that i

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Kyle Nitzsche
Hello Shaun and all. On 07/07/2010 07:34 PM, Shaun McCance wrote: On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 17:13 -0400, Kyle Nitzsche wrote: http://mdzlog.alcor.net/2010/07/06/weve-packaged-all-of-the-free-software-what-now/ [snip] With which I agree in general. * on-disk docs might effectively b

[Ubuntu-manual] German edition

2010-07-09 Thread Daniel Schury
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 It's me again :) Anything left, things I've still overseen? - --- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Daniel Schury -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.or

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Using Mallard for Ubuntu docs

2010-07-09 Thread Phil Bull
Hi Luke, On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 10:20 +0100, Luke-Jennings wrote: > Having read back through this thread I thought I would add my 2 cents. > It appears we have a bit of a problem, the docs team would like to > convert to mallard, which will have to be done by hand as there is no > tool. But there i

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] An interesting blog by Matt Zimmerman touches on docs

2010-07-09 Thread Jason Cook
I think that a cloud based solution is a great idea. But for mobile users this would a problem. One possible solution would be to include *all* of the content that is available online in a repository that *gets updated when the contents on the web changes*. Then is is not just static and can be red