Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Content management changes to simplify collaboration

2010-05-18 Thread Ilya Haykinson
> > Seems like DocBook has the most flexibility, but since there is some > barrier to entry when writing DocBook maybe it'd be worth the time to come > up with some kind of simple editing tool. That is if there isn't something > out there better than Gedit :-). > My hope is that we have two class

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Content management changes to simplify collaboration

2010-05-18 Thread Adam Sommer
Thanks for starting a comprehensive thread on these subjects. I probably have more questions than answers, but maybe they'll be worthwhile. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Ilya Haykinson wrote: > > > Assuming agreement on the above (not a given, but I wanted to explore > further), there are s

[Ubuntu-manual] Quickshot

2010-05-18 Thread Luke-Jennings
Hello, On behalf of the Quickshot team, we would like to give everyone some insight into the current plans of the Quickshot team; Quickshot is under heavy development for Ubuntu 10.10. One of our driving focuses is to support other projects that might wish to capture screenshots for documentatio

[Ubuntu-manual] Content management changes to simplify collaboration

2010-05-18 Thread Ilya Haykinson
All, I would like to jump-start the discussion of the content management system (i.e. content pool), below. Here are my values for this type of a system: - structured data storage with a concept of a "unit of content" - this is the smallest "addressable" item - I propose that the units

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 582361] [NEW] apt-get doesn't mention dist-upgrade

2010-05-18 Thread Alan Pope
Public bug reported: The manual discusses the use of apt-get update and apt-get upgrade but doesn't mention apt-get dist-upgrade. Generally for new users dist- upgrade is preferable to upgrade. This bug was also filed via the google spreadsheet. Filing here to keep track. ** Affects: ubuntu-manu

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Shaun McCance
On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 10:41 -0400, Adam Sommer wrote: > > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Matthew East > wrote: > > > For my part, I was hoping to provoke a very constructive > discussion > with my post about specific improvements that can be made an

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Kevin Godby
Hello, Matthew. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Matthew East wrote: > I think the critical question for us to consider is whether the > "differences" which you set out below are really differences or not. > In other words, are these fundamental ideological differences which > justify having sepa

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Ilya Haykinson
Hi Matthew, Thank you for the thoughtful response. > At the same time, there are some differences in our approaches as well. > > > My strong view is that all of the points which you've identified as > "differences" between the projects are simply things which ubuntu-doc > could be doing better

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Posso ajudar no designer???

2010-05-18 Thread André Gondim
Hi Fagner, Please in this mail list, use english, ok? Cheers, - André Gondim E-mail: andregon...@ubuntu.com Blog: http://andregondim.eti.br OpenPGP keys: C9721403 - 2010/5/18 Fagner fjas : > > Ola g

[Ubuntu-manual] Posso ajudar no designer???

2010-05-18 Thread Fagner fjas
Ola gostaria de ajudar na parte de designer, tenho experiencia em HTML, CSS, ediçao de imagens com Gimp e criaçao de desenhos vetoriais com o inkscape, e tambem tenho um pouco de experiencia em programaçao em PHP e Mysql. Em termos de estilo, sou ecletico e me adapto as necessidades do projeto, pra

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Adam Sommer
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Matthew East wrote: > > > For my part, I was hoping to provoke a very constructive discussion > with my post about specific improvements that can be made and ways for > collaboration. I think that Kevin's post had the same intention. Let's > stick to that. > I

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Matthew East
Hi Martin, On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Martin Owens wrote: > It appears for all the world like a team bogged down in it's own very > heavy bureaucracy, historical and legacy technical implementation and an > old school approach to contributor involvement which is not engaging. > > What we ha

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Matthew, On Tue, 2010-05-18 at 08:10 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > So I think that the answer here *is* for us all to work on > improvements to ubuntu-doc's processes, to improve help.ubuntu.com, > and to collaborate on material. Specifically, I think that we could > develop a specification/blu

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Docs Team and Ubuntu Manual Project: Toward future cooperation

2010-05-18 Thread Matthew East
Hi Kevin, On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Kevin Godby wrote: > On behalf of the Ubuntu Manual team, we wanted to reach out to you to > start reconciling our two teams' approaches to creating great Ubuntu > documentation. Thanks for the positive, thoughtful and constructive email, and sorry for