Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint chapter9] Chapter 9 - Troubleshooting

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
I'm not so sure that this fits in Chp. 9. As other people mentioned before, the chapter is already growing pretty fast. pon poff seems like a setup issue, not trouble-shooting. perhaps it would fit better in installation? a whole section on how to connect to the internet might be appropriate. Ela

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506807] [NEW] Factual Error sudo (Chapter 7)

2010-01-12 Thread Anmol Sarma
Public bug reported: Section 7.1 suggests that using sudo is the same as logging in as root. A beginner may easily confuse them. sudo Is used to execute commands as another user. We probably need better explanation about the concept of a super-user and why it is dangerous to even have a super-user

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506803] [NEW] Factual Error Terminal vs. Shell (Chapter 7)

2010-01-12 Thread Anmol Sarma
Public bug reported: Section 7.1 suggests that the shell and the terminal are the same. The terminal provides input and output functionality while the shell processes the user's commands. the uses accesses the shell by means of a terminal. They are two distinct concepts implemented by two distinc

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
Different note: I'm writing up a guide to restoring GRUB after a windows install. Technically, it is much easier to leave the windows bootloader alone and but GRUB on / instead of in the MBR. It involved much less interpretation of terminal outputs. However, I don't think this is considered best p

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Cover Proposal

2010-01-12 Thread Vishnoo
On Wed, 2010-01-13 at 17:29 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > I don't think anyone has modified the logo colour? In the third design , the logo colors of the centered one are stylized. Not that it doesnt look good... its just we aernt allowed to do that :) -- Cheers, Vish

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] The bzr repo

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
I branched, ran make, edited the chapter 9 tex, made again, committed, pulled, merged, committed and pushed. The tree should be on launchpad. I suspect the make screwed it up. Sorry! On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Heh no worries, leave it to us to fix. Just so we k

[Ubuntu-manual] Meeting on Saturday at 1100 UTC

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Hi all, Just like to remind you about the meeting this Saturday - while it's technically not a "meeting" but a brief, we will be making some more decisions about things like margin notes, in line notes, credit format, footer and headers, indentation, page type, screenshot resolution, glossary and

[Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint formatting] Formatting of the manual

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Blueprint changed by Benjamin Humphrey: Assignee: Joe Burgess => Kevin Godby -- Formatting of the manual https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+spec/formatting ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual Post to : ubun

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Cover Proposal

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
I don't think anyone has modified the logo colour? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 5:27 PM, Vishnoo wrote: > On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 14:36 +0200, David Nel wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > > > I am new to Ubuntu / Linux and have looked at the Ubuntu Manual > > project. I have put together a cover proposal but

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Cover Proposal

2010-01-12 Thread Vishnoo
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 14:36 +0200, David Nel wrote: > Hi there, > > > I am new to Ubuntu / Linux and have looked at the Ubuntu Manual > project. I have put together a cover proposal but have no idea how to > submit it? I don't want to go breaking any wiki pages so any help > offered it great. >

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Sure, ideas for someone to assign? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Jamin Day > wrote: > Also I have a feeling that if we are not careful this could become quite an > overwhelming chapter, as there are so many possible ways to write this. > > It would be great for people to chip in some ideas on

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] The bzr repo

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Heh no worries, leave it to us to fix. Just so we know what went wrong, could you tell me what changes you made that you think could have caused it? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Elan Kugelmass wrote: > Hi Benjamin, > > I think I may have broken our trunk for ubuntu-manual. I tried to start >

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506672] Re: lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based

2010-01-12 Thread Fabian Rodriguez
On 01/12/2010 08:07 PM, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > I'll add it to the history of Linux. > I find Wikipedia has a good page on what Ubuntu is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29 Perhaps some of that couldbe reused and save the editors/writers some time & effort. ___

[Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint chapter9] Chapter 9 - Troubleshooting

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
Blueprint changed by Elan Kugelmass: Assignee: (none) => Elan Kugelmass -- Chapter 9 - Troubleshooting https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+spec/chapter9 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual Post to : ubuntu-manual

[Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint chapter9] Chapter 9 - Troubleshooting

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
Blueprint changed by Elan Kugelmass: Whiteboard changed: - Possible troubleshoot topics: - Why can't I double-boot (anymore)? - How can I set file-permissions? - I forgot my password - The login screen doesn't load + Now sketching out the chapter at the wiki! -- Chapter 9 - Troubleshooting https

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Jamin Day
Also I have a feeling that if we are not careful this could become quite an overwhelming chapter, as there are so many possible ways to write this. It would be great for people to chip in some ideas on the wiki, but it also might be worth having a second person assigned to help Elan research and w

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Ilya Haykinson
I also recommend searching online to see what problems people tend to experience with Ubuntu, and looking at other books/articles on the topic. For example, see the list at http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=667418 (it's from a copyrighted book, so please don't copy anything out of t

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Gidday, Cheers Jamin for answering :) Yeah basically Elan the aim for Chapter 9 is to pretty much answer a lot of the commonly asked questions that you find floating around the Absolute Beginner forum on UF. These are things like "how do I enable flash" "I can't play .wmv or .mp3s" etc etc I've

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Editors allocated

2010-01-12 Thread Matt Griffin
Brett, Be sure to check out the Quickly project (https://launchpad.net/quickly) or what they're doing on Ubuntu-Docs team (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs) as there might be more places to contribute your knowledge and time. Thanks. Matt On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 16:50 -0800, Ilya Haykinson wrot

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506672] Re: lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
I'll add it to the history of Linux. Thanks ** Changed in: ubuntu-manual Assignee: (unassigned) => Benjamin Humphrey (humphreybc) ** Changed in: ubuntu-manual Importance: Undecided => Medium ** Changed in: ubuntu-manual Status: New => In Progress -- lack of mention that Ubuntu

[Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint chapter9] Chapter 9 - Troubleshooting

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
Blueprint changed by Elan Kugelmass: Whiteboard changed: - NEW CONTENT: A whole NEW section on "Learning more about Linux" that - covers << Other distributions, Linux servers, Free software, Where you - can get help >> and then the OLD chapter 9 extra apps list. + Possible troubleshoot topics: + W

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Editors allocated

2010-01-12 Thread Ilya Haykinson
Brett, Thanks for offering to help! The manual is currently targeting complete Ubuntu novices, computer novices, and in general a non-technical audience. Given that, we wouldn't want to expose them to the more advanced topics such as the ones you are describing. If you have some extra time to he

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Jamin Day
Hi Elan, The aim for this section is to build the chapter around providing some tips/solutions to common problems that new Ubuntu users often run into. We are not talking mega-complex things here, it will be more like "why can't I dual-boot anymore after reinstalling windows (ie restoring GRUB)",

[Ubuntu-manual] Chapter 9

2010-01-12 Thread Elan Kugelmass
I'm interested in helping get the manual done, and even in taking the lead on chapter 9, but I don't know exactly what the dream is for this chapter. The blueprint specification is devoid of information. Can someone give me some pointers? Thanks Elan __

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506672] Re: lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based

2010-01-12 Thread Josh Holland
I'm writing Chapter 10, which includes a section on "Other Linux Distros". It might be best off being mentioned there, but I do agree that a passing mention in the prologue could be useful. -- lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506672 You received this bug

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506672] [NEW] lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based

2010-01-12 Thread Wolter Hellmund
Well, as the writer of chapter 5 I am glad you noticed my mention :) But yes, I think it is very important that this piece of information gets cleared out to a bigger extend and earlier in the book. As far as I know, the project founder Benjamin Humphrey is working on the prologue, and judging by

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506672] Re: lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based

2010-01-12 Thread Dayofswords
** Description changed: i quickly searched the manual and found no mention of Ubuntu being Debian-based closest i found was this "These are known as "debs" and are inherited from Ubuntu’s ascendant, Debian." but that is way later in chapter 5 my suggestion: some mention in "A Br

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506672] [NEW] lack of mention that Ubuntu is Debian-based

2010-01-12 Thread Dayofswords
Public bug reported: i quickly searched the manual and found no mention of Ubuntu being Debian-based closest i found was this "These are known as "debs" and are inherited from Ubuntu’s ascendant, Debian." but that is way later in chapter 5 my suggestion: some mention in "A Brief History of Ubunt

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Editors allocated

2010-01-12 Thread Brett Alton
Is there going to be a section about doing programming or web development or running web servers in Ubuntu? I can help out in that area. In fact, if you check my homepage, I've written 4 articles for fullcirclemagazine.org regarding that topic. http://brettalton.com/?page=computer_services Let m

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] Re: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread Deon Spengler
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 20:34 +, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Working on it > Sorry, please ignore my previous reply -- Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubunt

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] Re: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread Deon Spengler
On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 20:34 +, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Working on it > yup -- Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Manual Team, which is subscribed

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Editors allocated

2010-01-12 Thread Jamin Day
Sorry John, forgot to add you. I will put you on chapter 8 if that's ok, so now we only need editors for chapters 6 and 10. John - please confirm whether this is ok with you when you get the chance. JaminDay On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Jamin Day wrote: > Hello editors, > > If you check t

[Ubuntu-manual] Editors allocated

2010-01-12 Thread Jamin Day
Hello editors, If you check the ToC in the wiki here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/TableOfContents you will notice I have added some of your names to various chapters (according to the formatting at the top). That is, the first name written in large print is the name of the allocated writ

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-12 Thread Adi Roiban
În data de Mi, 13-01-2010 la 09:26 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey a scris: > Hello, Hi, I am happy to see such efforts. Hope it will shape up nicely. [snip] > As you may have noticed, we've received quite a lot of contributors, > interest and media attention. In turn, we are definitely on track for > a

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Ubuntu Learning Project and Ground Control

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Burgess
I will def. help out. Hopefully we can find some sort of latex to docbook converter program. --Joe Burgess CMU Information Systems '12 (703) 402-9206 On Jan 12, 2010 6:33 AM, "Jamin Day" > wrote: Sounds great! I will be more than happy to help out with the transposing side of things into docboo

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Proprietary desktop help

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Awesome response Joe. xD On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Joe Burgess wrote: > Ours will be 100x better > > --Joe Burgess > CMU Information Systems '12 > (703) 402-9206 > > On Jan 12, 2010 3:56 AM, "Benjamin Humphrey" wrote: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/PDFs > > Have a look at that - it

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Proprietary desktop help

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Burgess
Ours will be 100x better --Joe Burgess CMU Information Systems '12 (703) 402-9206 On Jan 12, 2010 3:56 AM, "Benjamin Humphrey" wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/PDFs Have a look at that - it's an Ubuntu Manual made by Canonical and the community, but it's not under Creative Commons Share

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] Re: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Working on it -- Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Manual Team, which is subscribed to Ubuntu Manual. Status in Ubuntu Manual: New Bug description: Chap

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint optimization] Optimizing the manual file size

2010-01-12 Thread Joe Burgess
Thanks for volunteering! --Joe Burgess CMU Information Systems '12 (703) 402-9206 On Jan 11, 2010 9:37 PM, "Brett Alton" wrote: Blueprint changed by Brett Alton: Assignee: (none) => Brett Alton Whiteboard set to: Assigning myself to this. -- brettalton 2010-01-11 -- Optimizing the manual

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] Re: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread Jamin Day
I also thought it was still going to be included in 10.04, then maybe replaced in 10.10 or later, although happy to be corrected. Is there any way we can confirm this? On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 7:10 AM, pererik87 wrote: > i read a post where they said it would be in Software center for those > mi

[Ubuntu-manual] Collaboration between the Ubuntu Manual and Docs Team

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Hello, Firstly, let me apologize - I believe the Manual and Docs Team may have got off on the wrong foot. I'd just like to make it clear that we are not in competition with the docs team, and we aren't trying to insinuate that you aren't doing your job correctly. I've changed some of the justifica

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] Re: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread pererik87
i read a post where they said it would be in Software center for those missing it -- Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506498 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Manual Team, which is subscribed to

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] Re: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Are you sure it's removed in Lucid? I thought the ultimate goal for the project is to replace Synaptic by 10.10 - not 10.04. Synaptic is a huge program to replace, and, I haven't seen much active development on the Software Center for a while now. -- Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This

[Ubuntu-manual] Featured on the front page of Ubuntu Forums

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Check out the main page of Ubuntu Forums and see if you can spot our feature :) http://ubuntuforums.org/ -- Benjamin Humphrey Ubuntu Manual Project Leader Dunedin, New Zealand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual www.interesting.co.nz www.benjaminhumphreyphotography.com __

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 506498] [NEW] Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid.

2010-01-12 Thread pererik87
Public bug reported: Chapter 5 -> "Synaptic Package Manager" This is removed from lucid. Maybe it should stand that its possible to get older versions of software center like "add remove" and "Synaptic Package Manager" by installing through SC, instead. ** Affects: ubuntu-manual Importance:

[Ubuntu-manual] Cover Proposal

2010-01-12 Thread David Nel
Hi there, I am new to Ubuntu / Linux and have looked at the Ubuntu Manual project. I have put together a cover proposal but have no idea how to submit it? I don't want to go breaking any wiki pages so any help offered it great. ___ Mailing list: https://

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Ubuntu Learning Project and Ground Control

2010-01-12 Thread Jamin Day
Sounds great! I will be more than happy to help out with the transposing side of things into docbook for the learning project, once we get this release out the door. It's great to see that we are beginning to collaborate with some other projects, and get the Manual some more attention in the proce

[Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint chapter5] Chapter 5 - Software and Packaging

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Blueprint changed by Benjamin Humphrey: Approver: Ubuntu Manual Team => Benjamin Humphrey Whiteboard changed: - CHANGED CONTENT, SEE NEW TABLE OF CONTENTS + Added myself as the editor/approver - Benjamin Humphrey -- Chapter 5 - Software and Packaging https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ub

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Ubuntu Learning Project and Ground Control

2010-01-12 Thread Wolter Hellmund
Hm, this is great news.. It seems that the project is finally going official. About ground control.. what a great idea! I imagine that Martin has something in mind similar to the autorun button that appears on a bar in nautilus when you open a cd/dvd, but instead with push and pull buttons... nice

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Featured on Planet Ubuntu!

2010-01-12 Thread Wolter Hellmund
Nice work team! On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 21:07 +1300, Benjamin Humphrey wrote: > Thanks to Martin Owens, we have now been the subject of a blog post on > Planet Ubuntu :) > > -- > Benjamin Humphrey > > Ubuntu Manual Project Leader > Dunedin, New Zealand > > http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual >

[Ubuntu-manual] Proprietary desktop help

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Training/PDFs Have a look at that - it's an Ubuntu Manual made by Canonical and the community, but it's not under Creative Commons Share Alike, so it cannot be edited or copied or redistributed anywhere. It's also rather old. -- Benjamin Humphrey Ubuntu Manual Project L

[Ubuntu-manual] Featured on Planet Ubuntu!

2010-01-12 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Thanks to Martin Owens, we have now been the subject of a blog post on Planet Ubuntu :) -- Benjamin Humphrey Ubuntu Manual Project Leader Dunedin, New Zealand http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual www.interesting.co.nz www.benjaminhumphreyphotography.com _