[Ubuntu-manual] [Blueprint chapter10] Chapter 10 - Troubleshooting

2010-01-09 Thread Gilbert Mendoza
Blueprint changed by Gilbert Mendoza: Assignee: Gilbert Mendoza => (none) -- Chapter 10 - Troubleshooting https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual/+spec/chapter10 ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual Post to : ubuntu-ma

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread ilya haykinson
+1 from me. I think the new plan will work as a good introduction. Perhaps, like JaminDay says, we can do something about Chapter 7 not being a pure introduction to the terminal, but perhaps a task-oriented one? What if we merge chapter 7 and 8 and just create a "troubleshooting" chapter, which st

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] double quotes

2010-01-09 Thread Ilya Haykinson
Also, please do not forget that an em-dash () in LaTeX is "---". Please use "space, dash, dash, dash, space" to separate thoughts within a sentence. Much like double quotes this applies to writers, but especially for editors. I've recently gone through and fixed up all existing copy. -ilya On Sa

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread JaminDay
I think the new structure is good, and seems to progress in an intuitive way. Ie starting with an explanation of the installation process, to navigating your new system and it's default layout/software, to slowly learning how to configure and set it up to the way you want, add more programs, and th

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] double quotes

2010-01-09 Thread Jamin Day
Yes this is correct - double quotes should be written ``some text'', not the standard way we are all used to. Whilst it would be good for writers to do this as they go it is easy to forget (guilty of this myself), so as the chapters are edited this is one of the things anyone editing (and anyone tr

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
Vish: The advanced section is basically going to be from Chapter 7 onwards, so technically the terminal stuff is in the advanced section. Yeah I forgot Pitivi was on the default install, this is just a mistake. It won't be in our final extra apps list. -- Ordering of content might need some tweak

Re: [Ubuntu-manual] double quotes

2010-01-09 Thread José Francis
Here you are: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikibooks/en/wiki/LaTeX/Formatting#Quotes I vaguely remember reading that on an Ubuntu wiki somewhere, recently, but I couldn't find it. --Ben [please ignore name attached to email account :)] 2010/1/9 Martin Lukeš > Hi guys! > > During translation I n

[Ubuntu-manual] double quotes

2010-01-09 Thread Martin Lukeš
Hi guys! During translation I noticed a few strings which contains double quotes. I thought that LaTeX wants *``this''* style, not *"this"*. Here is grep for revision 61. $ bzr revno ; find . -name "*.tex" -exec grep -H \" {} \; | sort 61 ./chapter3/chapter3.tex:the option "Install Ubuntu" and fol

[Ubuntu-manual] Title page proposal

2010-01-09 Thread Thorsten Wilms
Hi! Got aware of this project being interested in proposals for the title page 2 days ago. I just joined team and list and added https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Screenshots?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=manual_cover_thorwil.png https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Screenshots?action=Attac

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Vish
Scratch that: after a recent Update Pitivi is *already* included in Lucid by default . So it will be in Alpha 2. -- Ordering of content might need some tweaking https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/504668 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Manual Team, which is a bug

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Vish
Also to note: pitivi is planned to be in the default install. Is it justified to have it in chapter 9 ? -- Ordering of content might need some tweaking https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/504668 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Manual Team, which is a bug assignee

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Vish
I would suggest that we *not* even have a chapter on the terminal [chapter 7]. Defer it to the advanced section , where it would serve as an introduction to the terminal usage. For a few reasons: - There is a profound fear among new users that Linux==terminal knowledge is a must. Not mentioning

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
^^ This is what Joe Burgess, Thomas Cantera and I came up with in the meeting on Saturday. See the logs for more detail. Basically we think we've got a Table of Contents that covers everything we presently have, and some more. It's not too long, it's not too confusing and it gets harder as it adv

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Joe Burgess
Ch 1 & 2 => prologue Ch 3 => Ch 1 Anthing on which version, goes to Ch. 10 Gnome part of Ch. 4 => Ch 2 Plus stuff on nautilus Ch.3 Titled Applications contains Rhytmbox F-Spot OpenOffice Tomboy Empathy Firefox Evolution Totem ubuntu one Include a note on restricted extras when it first comes up

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
** Changed in: ubuntu-manual Importance: Medium => Critical -- Ordering of content might need some tweaking https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/504668 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Manual Team, which is a bug assignee. Status in Ubuntu Manual: Confirmed Bu

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Benjamin Humphrey
I like Ilya's second proposal, but Joe is right - we don't need to go through every single application that's in the default install. I don't like how our whole advanced section is condensed into two chapters though. We need to combine some of the middle stuff and then have it balance out, maybe s

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Wolter Hellmund
Ok, here is piece of thought. I do think we have to re-organize the manual. I think Ilya is proposing an interesting arrangement, but that Benjamin also has a point in keeping the number of chapters low. But I don't think we should do it because people might not want to read the manual as a whole,

[Ubuntu-manual] [Bug 504668] Re: Ordering of content might need some tweaking

2010-01-09 Thread Joe Burgess
The terminal really is a place where only people are really into linux go. The idea of splitting up the book into the two sections is very smart and what is required so that we can give a user a quick overview of everything, keeping in mind that they don't care about a lot of advanced topics. For