Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-08-20 Thread Null Ack
Evening Devs, Tonight I was doing some of my test suite and I had the tracker-preferences crash unexpectedly doing routine workflow with viewing (not changing) preferences. Apport came through and I ended up at an invalid existing bug from 2007 because the user had not submitted debugging symbols.

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-08-20 Thread Null Ack
2008/8/21 Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Am 20.08.2008 um 11:42 schrieb Null Ack: > >> I'm not convinced that the strategy of asking users to install >> specialised debugging packages is the right way to go. I see a very >> low hit rate with this work

Correct Process for Package Update Requests

2008-09-01 Thread Null Ack
Gday folks, Can I please be clarified on what the correct process is for package update requests? On 27th of June I asked the MOTU mail list what it was and advised "The correct way to do this is to file a bug against the package and tag it "upgrade"." Since I've done this for 6+ bugs. Yesterday

Re: Bugs for NM 0.7

2008-09-05 Thread Null Ack
To add to this, we have some serious regressions with problems of not being able to consistently apply static IPs as well as custom MTU values: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/258743 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/256054 http://bugzi

The Case For Re-Evaluating Our Release Approach To FFMPEG

2008-09-08 Thread Null Ack
Gday everyone, It was suggested to me on IRC that I should discuss this matter on this mail list. Summary : I think we need to have regular snapshots of svn ffmpeg, libavcodec and so forth released in both the current development build and as backports to production builds. User's expect to have

Re: The Case For Re-Evaluating Our Release Approach To FFMPEG

2008-09-12 Thread Null Ack
2008/9/10 Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > "Null Ack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Summary : I think we need to have regular snapshots of svn ffmpeg, >> libavcodec and so forth released in both the current development build >> and as backpor

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-09-12 Thread Null Ack
Thanks for all the discussion on this folks. :) Just now I had a crash in totem with apport leading me to 9 previously reported bugs that are either invalid or incomplete because the bug reporter did not do a backtrace to help fix the problem. Now I have the same issue, when it was originally repo

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-09-13 Thread Null Ack
Gday everyone. As part of my work with the QA Team I want to contribute to fixing the process gaps in this area. Can I summarise what I see as the problem: Problem situation: I'm increasingly noticing that certain types of bugs are being marked invalid or incomplete with boilerplate type messages

OpenAL Regressions In Intrepid

2008-09-23 Thread Null Ack
Gday everyone, The Linux Standard Base is surely a good thing. I don't know if OpenAL is included in the LSB or not. What I do know is that someone decided to change naming for OpenAL in Intrepid and this is causing many regressions in other apps that now can't find OpenAL. Can I please refer peo

Re: Any news on skype+pulseaudio+intel_hda_realtek ?

2009-02-10 Thread Null Ack
So in essence Scott, due to what you've highlighted as a lack of testing input during the pre production lifecycle phases, your suggesting that end users should endure the brunt of testing? As Ubuntu needs to move forward rapidly, being cutting edge and cant be so highly concerned with the risk of

Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Null Ack
Can I please be advised of why Jaunty will not ship with 2.6.29, and that the kernel team has elected to ship on .28? I'm sure the kernel team are aware of the many driver changes in .29, but I'm not clear if they they propose to backport those into .28? What about features? Or any patches that fo

RE: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Null Ack
As do I Scott, but I am careful to distinguish between features and fixes. I'd like to know if .29 fixes will be backported into Ubuntu's .28 and how the thing will be managed. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://l

Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-03-15 Thread Null Ack
Gday folks :) There is difference between what I foresee as sensible security defaults for our desktop build against what is being currently delivered. It may very well be that there is aspects to the current setup that I am not fully aware of, and I'd like to better understand the reasoning behin

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-03-17 Thread Null Ack
Gday John, Good to see another Aussie on the list and contributing some top info :) I've looked into Plash and I think your suggestion is excellent. I was thinking of a two pronged approach: 1. AppArmor / SELInux or whatever static like central policy to contain deamons, as these services typic

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Null Ack
Considering some noise happening in the blog space over a Linux magazine article about security problems with Ubuntu server I think we should re-visit this topic. The article is at: http://www.linux-mag.com/id/7297/2/ The key criticisms of Ubuntu server raised by Linux magazine are: 1. Default p

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Null Ack
Thanks Mathias. I note that discussion is limited to the Server build, whereas this discussion has both desktop and server build topics. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Security Defaults

2009-04-14 Thread Null Ack
> I guess I was hallucinating working on the apparmor profile for > clamav-daemon and freshclam (also run as a daemon) today. > Thats great, though Scott please don't make the mistake of taking a strawman approach. What I said was about AppArmor defaults. I dont see my current dev build of the des

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-07 Thread Null Ack
I only have a passing interest in this, but its sufficient to ask this: * What actually is the rationally logical problem with Mono being in Ubuntu? What I see on that Boycott novell website is lots of fear mongering and little hard truth. 1. Its only the windows compatability stuff like windows

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-07 Thread Null Ack
Hi Lukas, I dont think the ordinary user cares about PulseAudio or other internal components to their desktops. They just want audio to work. The problem that I see is not so much about internal components, but is about failures in: 1. Not delivering reliable audio experiences in production rele