Re: Graphical Installer & bootloader

2008-04-14 Thread Colin Watson
get right. We've tried this in the past; no doubt we will try it again in the future. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Debimg for Ubuntu Intrepid Alternate Disks?

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Watson
;m no enormous fan of debian-cd, understand, but it sounds like a lot of work to shift over to anything else too. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubsc

Re: A note for translators regarding bootloader message

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Watson
up as a note in Launchpad for people translating the string. Not quite accurate, but true if the comment is placed in the .pot file. > Which package should I file this bug against? syslinux? gfxboot? other? gfxboot-theme-ubuntu, please. Thanks, -- Colin Watson

Re: i18n in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS - great work! (& current status)

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Watson
sing a image containing > that new version, and didn't notice any notes at any point of time. > When should the note come up? This wasn't actually fully implemented in time for 8.04, because the installer also needs to be changed to display this note when appropriate. I hop

Re: SPARC architecture moved to ports.ubuntu.com for 8.04 and beyond

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 06:52:20PM -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Michael R. Head > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Colin Watson wrote: > > > A similar reminder goes for PowerPC users, since this architecture was > > > mov

Re: Developemnt and use - Training manual

2008-04-24 Thread Colin Watson
Torsten, who would be the appropriate people to reply to this. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Debimg for Ubuntu Intrepid Alternate Disks?

2008-04-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:50:14PM +0200, Julian Andres Klode wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 24.04.2008, 20:45 +0100 schrieb Colin Watson: > > Somebody would have to replace this with germinate, or else merge the > > appropriate code from debimg into germinate; it's not a good

Re: SPARC architecture moved to ports.ubuntu.com for 8.04 and beyond

2008-04-25 Thread Colin Watson
ns who enabled Apache's mod_speling. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
ple make the wrong choice for relative sizes. In fact, we implemented this option in Ubiquity as a response to the common wish of using a separate /home file system; it just wasn't exactly the response that had originally been asked for! However, I think it will cause many fewer p

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-13 Thread Colin Watson
complexity that shouldn't be recommended by default. Unless you have multiple disks (in which case some of the choices are made for you), the only reason to bother with them is the (very real) use case of wanting to preserve your data on installation; I think we should focus on that use

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
kaging system and that would be likely to create bizarre conflicts if bits of it were from an old installation and bits of it were from a new one. /home, /srv, /root, /usr/local, /var/local, and in general any unrecognised parts of the file system are retained. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 01:05:00PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 09:57:58AM +0200, David Prieto wrote: > > Hi Colin, > > > I presume that you did not instruct the installer to format the old > > > /home partition? (If you did, then why?) > &g

Re: Ubiquity - setting a separate /home by default

2008-05-14 Thread Colin Watson
and shed some light on > it. > > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=793772 this is the link. I'd prefer if development discussions stayed here; what with OpenSSL and everything I have very little time for forums threads right now. -- Colin Watson

Re: Should default keyboard be based on location?

2008-05-28 Thread Colin Watson
'm curious; won't the majority of people needing this (particularly those whose names require it) select French as their installation language? I appreciate that you didn't, but it does seem like a good heuristic. And, after all, it's only a default. Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Overlap in installing packages

2008-07-01 Thread Colin Watson
s up > pulling in the second to satisfy the first. apt-get can do this. However, it sounds like the original poster was trying to install the packages with dpkg, in which case you need to supply all the .deb files at once. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Feature Request: Better partitioning wizard

2008-07-09 Thread Colin Watson
CD, but not in the desktop CD), and manual partitioning should provide more guidance as to what you're supposed to do. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings

Re: Call upon The Great Spirit of 'Ubuntu'...

2008-08-26 Thread Colin Watson
keep up with. > On behalf of the people of the Ubuntu-amd64 community who are interested in > using the remastersys script, I ask politely, if the developer(s) in > question, could give him a possibility to ask questions or address/discuss > the issue. It would be best if he could d

Re: Intrepid compatibility with C3 CPUs #5212

2008-08-31 Thread Colin Watson
mainstream desktops, > laptops and servers and 32 bit is for legacy and special purpose. Without wishing to disagree with your conclusion, I think this premise is mistaken. Due to the prevalence of proprietary code that has trouble running on 64-bit systems (notably Flash, until nspluginwrapper ca

Re: Intrepid compatibility with C3 CPUs #5212

2008-09-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 01, 2008 at 08:18:18AM +0100, Sam Tygier wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > >On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 01:49:27AM -0400, M G wrote: > >>Subject: Intrepid compatibility with C3 CPUs #5212 > > > >Are you referring to a particular bug here? > >https://launch

Re: Bugs introduced in GCC?

2008-09-02 Thread Colin Watson
and given it to Matthias. Since it's fixed in our development branch, and I've bisected the fix down to a single version, it should be relatively easy to track down. As a miscompilation of simple code, I think this would merit an update to 8.04. Thanks, -- Colin Watson

Re: Bugs introduced in GCC?

2008-09-03 Thread Colin Watson
x27;m glad you are working on fixing this, and I hope you will > make a new release. Yes; we're debating its exact content, but the fix for this particular bug is uncontroversial. Thanks, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubuntu install options

2008-09-23 Thread Colin Watson
This was an intentional decision. -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Gtk+ problems with recent API change of GtkAdjustment

2008-09-23 Thread Colin Watson
u users to reach Ubuntu developers * Open to all to subscribe, posting moderated for non-subscribers -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://

Re: Ubuntu install options

2008-09-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:32:13AM -0500, HggdH wrote: > On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 16:13 +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 03:21:41PM +, Zuliang Jiang wrote: > > > When installing ubuntu, is it better to have options to let users > > >

Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development & questions about Plymouth

2009-01-08 Thread Colin Watson
termed "stable", is there a possibility that it > can be included as optional ? A use request/bugreport is filed at: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/util-linux/+bug/197311 ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorro

Re: Thoughts about EXT4 optional in Jaunty Development & questions about Plymouth

2009-01-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 08, 2009 at 02:40:51PM -0700, Aaron Toponce wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > ext4 will be available as a partitioning option as of tomorrow's daily > > builds. > > I'm looking forward to this. I've been looking forward to ext4 for > years. I co

Re: Problem with patched grub1 & ext4

2009-01-13 Thread Colin Watson
y all *that* short-term, and we are likely to rely on it for 9.04. Please do file a bug with as much detail as you can. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubsc

Re: cdrtools vs cdrkit: flogging the dead horse

2009-01-14 Thread Colin Watson
hat protracted process. > One of the reasons I shifted from Debian to Ubuntu was the fact that Ubuntu > made an effort to service the best interests of the userbase, even if it > meant including non-free content (sometimes in an optional repository). Indeed -

Re: cdrtools vs cdrkit: flogging the dead horse

2009-01-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 01:08:30PM +, Odysseus Flappington wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > The reason it's not in non-free (i.e. multiverse, in Ubuntu), is that > > distributing it is currently believed to be a contravention of the > > copyright interests of

Re: cdrtools vs cdrkit: flogging the dead horse

2009-01-16 Thread Colin Watson
> With the license incompatibilities it cannot be redistributed at all, not > > even in non-free. > > The code is GPL? > > The build system is CDDL? > > ... rip the code, incorporate into wodim, rebuild on GPL build system. Read up on the background; it is no lo

Re: Memtest86

2009-01-22 Thread Colin Watson
would be difficult for them to get their hands on it. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Joining upstream bash-completion team (was: Re: Ubuntu bash-completion 20060301-4ubuntu3)

2009-01-22 Thread Colin Watson
#bash-completion on irc.oftc.net. We're > also > using bzr, because we wanted to make things easier for Ubuntu folks! ;) I definitely appreciated this when making a change recently! (You have a bug report about it with a bzr bundle attached.) Cheers, -- Colin Watson

Re: Doing something about signal:noise complaints

2009-01-23 Thread Colin Watson
ot;Somehow confident"? your confident, but you don't know why? Loïc was indicating that the space filled with "[somehow confident]" is (in the web survey) a drop-down from which you can select several different options indicating different degrees of confidence. -- Colin W

Re: [rfc] Jaunty experience and SSDs...

2009-01-23 Thread Colin Watson
our post you yourself don't seem entirely sure of the desired size. I imagine it will vary from device to device. Are you willing to do this work? If you'd like to work with me or other installer developers on IRC, #ubuntu-installer is open. Thanks, -- Colin Watson

Re: a ubuntu-audio mailing list?

2009-01-23 Thread Colin Watson
where it crowds out other discussion, it can then be moved to a separate list. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Doing something about signal:noise complaints

2009-01-23 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 10:16:45AM -0500, Martin Owens wrote: > Hello Colin, > > On Fri, 2009-01-23 at 13:40 +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > [Please preserve quoting attributions in your replies; it makes things > > awfully confusing when you remove them. I've restored

Re: Ubuntu and language packs

2009-02-08 Thread Colin Watson
alling fallback packages, maybe using the relatively new language-support-TYPE-LL packages, or maybe with the aid of some additional metadata in those packages to indicate whether they provide something reasonably complete. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu

Re: IPV6 causes slow internet access

2009-02-20 Thread Colin Watson
ken at the moment and I thought I'd get this out for testing before spending too long trying to fix it. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe

Re: Installation fails and the corresponding bug report

2009-02-20 Thread Colin Watson
ives much more difficult when people tag along to an existing ubiquity bug; it's actually quite difficult for users to tell whether they're experiencing the same cause of problem as somebody else. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-d

Re: Request for gparted to be bumped to current in Jaunty for ext4 support.

2009-02-22 Thread Colin Watson
d to move forward with ext4. It looks like ext4 > needs to be at least optional (if not default) We've already decided that it will be optional in Jaunty (and indeed it already is, with the exception of gparted) and probably default in Jaunty+1 based on testing. -- Colin Watson

Re: I hope gparted 0.4.2 or greater is included in Jaunty. Supporting ext4 installations, but not ext4 partition management reflects a severe lack of polish.

2009-02-27 Thread Colin Watson
#x27;t think anyone ever said that there was a moral issue here; we can and do move ahead of Debian when we need to. gparted 0.4.3 is in Jaunty now. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.

Re: Installation fails and the corresponding bug report

2009-02-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 10:15:37AM +0100, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Colin Watson ha scritto: > > In future please file a new bug rather than doing that. It makes our > > lives much more difficult when people tag along to an existing ubiquity > > bug; it's actually quite d

Re: Installation fails and the corresponding bug report

2009-02-27 Thread Colin Watson
uishable just by reading it. Different rules ought to apply when we're talking about "this program failed in this strange way and produced the following output", I think. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailin

Re: Is it possible to avoid the automatic import of source packages into Karmic?

2009-06-16 Thread Colin Watson
ic import of Debian source packages in Karmic? I can > provide the list of the source packages to block[1]. Yes. Please file a bug (either without a source package, or on a randomly selected one of those source packages in Ubuntu), subscribe the ubuntu-archive team, and give us the list. -

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-16 Thread Colin Watson
x to > >> dynamic swap size. > > > > + 1 > > Not unless you have fixed the ability to hibernate to a swap file... It's part of the spec. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: gparted, ubiquity and other packages left behind by karmic a2 installer

2009-06-25 Thread Colin Watson
ouldn't need a fresh install - just showing us the installation logs from the one you have would be useful on its own. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Provide a GUI option in the installer to enable popcon

2009-06-25 Thread Colin Watson
s me suspicious in itself. I wonder if those one million submissions are due to an installer bug ... -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: why not scim 1.4.9?

2009-06-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 10:05:54AM +0700, Lê Quốc Tuấn wrote: > scim 1.4.9 has released in 2009/4/19 but why ubuntu not include it? No particular reason; it's on the to-be-merged list (https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html), it's just that nobody's got round to it yet. Siegfried

Re: gparted, ubiquity and other packages left behind by karmic a2 installer

2009-06-25 Thread Colin Watson
failure before the installer has finished, specifically bug 385995. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: gparted, ubiquity and other packages left behind by karmic a2 installer

2009-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 02:41:37PM -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 1:51 AM, Colin Watson wrote: > > You shouldn't need a fresh install - just showing us the installation > > logs from the one you have would be useful on its own. > > Erm, it loo

Re: gparted, ubiquity and other packages left behind by karmic a2 installer

2009-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
ay of course be a duplicate of an existing bug, but the easiest way for us to tell is to analyse the logs.) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: That upstart Upstart

2009-06-29 Thread Colin Watson
re currently shipping also means that you don't get as much benefit out of switching to Upstart jobs as we're eventually expecting anyway. Deployers would be best advised to hobble along with sysv-rc for a little while longer. (For the avoidance of doubt, this isn't me arguing that the job format shouldn't be better documented, but rather that if you're searching for documentation because you want to write Upstart jobs and use them in production rather than because you want to help with development, you may be on the wrong track just now.) Regards, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: gparted, ubiquity and other packages left behind by karmic a2 installer

2009-06-30 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:27:02AM -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > > (It's surprising that you apparently didn't see a dialog informing you > > that the installer had crashed. It must have gone down pretty hard.) >

Re: Developer Membership Board public meeting about approval process

2009-10-09 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 11:57:23PM -0700, Karen Palen wrote: > Sorry to ask a truly dumb noob question, but what IRC network has > #ubuntu-meeting? It's on irc.freenode.net, along with other Ubuntu channels. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...

Re: Overriding binaries in Debian Source 3 (quilt)

2010-09-11 Thread Colin Watson
servers; * Get it into lucid-proposed, and file an RT request to have this installed (would be easier once it's in lucid-updates, but this can be leapfrogged if need be). I think I'd recommend the latter so that we don't have too much stuff sloshing around only in intern

Re: The new installer.

2010-09-11 Thread Colin Watson
is!), and to install ubuntu-restricted-addons if you're using the GTK installer frontend or kubuntu-restricted-extras if you're using the KDE installer frontend. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-d

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
at selection is easily overridden by hitting , > or by experienced admins in preseed configurations We change preseeding too much, and it requires work from admins each time they bump to a new Ubuntu release. Many of those admins turn up on #ubuntu-installer and ask for help. The load is no

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
taller several years back, we've burned all the necessary code with fire and enjoyed it. Please don't make me go back to that. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Mo

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
d then consider swtiching to yes in 12.10. My counter-proposal would be to see how things work out with the openssh-server task at the top of tasksel's menu, as it now is in Natty. We haven't given that enough time (there hasn't even been a milestone containing it yet!

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:08:47AM -0600, Robbie Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 16:04 +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:49:38AM -0500, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > > > I think this screen is a good idea if in fact tasksel is moved to after &g

Re: SSH and the Ubuntu Server

2010-11-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 12:34:58PM -0600, Robbie Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 16:22 +0000, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 10:08:47AM -0600, Robbie Williamson wrote: > > > What if the Server team maintained the 2nd stage? Then we'd be making &g

Re: 2.6.38-11-generic re-introduced old bug on Gateway FX6850-51u

2011-08-22 Thread Colin Watson
d grub-efi (UEFI), could easily make a difference here. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Where is the chooser chooser?

2011-09-06 Thread Colin Watson
case, but I just checked and found that there's a cog icon next to my name in the greeter. Clicking that presents me with a drop-down menu of available sessions. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-deve

Re: subject [Bug 844965] Re: "Ubuntu Classic" session selection missing from unity-greeter.

2011-09-08 Thread Colin Watson
ks Unity is > the cat's meow? I work for Canonical, but not on anything to do with the desktop. I'm quite happy using Unity, although mainly because it gives me an extra line or two in maximised terminal windows. :-) -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubu

Re: Installing and enabling rdnssd by default

2011-09-09 Thread Colin Watson
and dhclient v6 and then have it > included on the server builds (all the others should come with > Network Manager). That server/desktop discrepancy is going to be a pain to handle. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss maili

Re: Correct package to file bug against for the text installer

2011-09-12 Thread Colin Watson
es. Is that a bug with the CD build, the cdromupgrade > program, with apt or with a back-end program? Start with the debian-installer package in Ubuntu. We'll reassign on from there as necessary. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-d

Re: Cleaning up the users and locking down the shells in /etc/passwd

2011-09-24 Thread Colin Watson
my packages used to do so some years ago, although it now uses start-stop-daemon instead. The breakage is probably worthwhile, I'll admit, but I can't say that there would be no problems with changing those users' shell since there's been such a long time

Re: Cleaning up the users and locking down the shells in /etc/passwd

2011-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 03:05:58PM -0700, Matt Alexander wrote: > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Colin Watson wrote: > > For almost everything, and certainly for the overwhelming majority of > > new entries, we do exactly as you say. However, I (as base-passwd > > mainta

Re: libguile 2.0 packages for ubuntu?

2011-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
pears to be working on it: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=615479 According to that bug log, he's blocked on a problem with libgc. Perhaps somebody knowledgeable could help him out? Regards, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] --

Re: Cleaning up the users and locking down the shells in /etc/passwd

2011-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:12:24AM -0700, Matt Alexander wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Colin Watson wrote: > > I'm afraid this is backwards. If you want to go and hunt down packages > > that rely on those global static users and get their maintainers > >

Re: Cleaning up the users and locking down the shells in /etc/passwd

2011-09-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 11:03:55AM -0700, Matt Alexander wrote: > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 06:12:24AM -0700, Matt Alexander wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 1:28 AM, Colin Watson > > wrote: > > > > I

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-09-28 Thread Colin Watson
force unstable to calm > down, so I would go again for autosyncing from testing, and letting > developers manually sync from unstable at will. Now that this is by > and large a self-service, this should work even better than in lucid. I agree. -- Colin Watson

Re: Fwd: [Ironpython-users] IronPython Ubuntu 11.10 Beta 2

2011-10-04 Thread Colin Watson
; >Dose anybody know why IronPython has been removed from Ubuntu 11.10 Beta >2? as it was in Beta 1 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dlr-languages/+bug/831402 If somebody gets this fixed in Debian, I think we could still just about reintroduce this. -- Colin Watson

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-10-10 Thread Colin Watson
r is often more restricted than restricted; I think in this case we should think of "restricted" as having its dictionary meaning, rather than identifying it with the (arguably misnamed) component. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-d

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-10-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 03:41:31PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: > On 10/10/2011 03:31 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 03:03:13PM -0500, Micah Gersten wrote: > >> ubuntu-restricted-extras > >> > >> Most of the stuff in ubuntu-restricted-extras

Re: Brainstorming for UDS-P

2011-10-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 04:44:19AM -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > I didn't think Debian had issues with GPL libs though, that's new to > me. It doesn't. There's at least one in the base system. The gstreamer good/bad/ugly split is determined by upstream, not by

Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/

2011-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
things we didn't realise had hardcoded paths (sure, they were buggy anyway, but that isn't necessarily a reason to break them), and doesn't provide much real benefit. Better to just leave it be. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com]

Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/

2011-11-07 Thread Colin Watson
preserve its current behaviour. Any extra behaviour should be added to a different/new program. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lis

Re: Ubuntu Alternate Remastering

2011-11-30 Thread Colin Watson
logs" from the installer main menu. If I had to guess, I'd say that something broke the Priority fields when regenerating the Packages file. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@

Re: Ubuntu should move all binaries to /usr/bin/

2011-12-07 Thread Colin Watson
ld be likely to be created. Simplifications here belong at higher levels. For example, the suggestion made somewhere in this thread that there's no good reason for Firefox to require the full path to an executable to open a resource seems like an excellent one. It should rarely be necessary

Re: apt does not update directory permissions

2011-12-07 Thread Colin Watson
y coordination between packages that may need to happen in order to do so safely. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Thinking about adding a Twitter stream to the Ubuntu install slideshow

2012-01-18 Thread Colin Watson
pping in some entirely different feed later, etc.). Perhaps talk with the Canonical sysadmins about the practicalities of this? -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or

Re: Ugly GRUB menu entries

2012-01-18 Thread Colin Watson
nt userspace. > If you're not sure where to file these; you're welcome to file them > against "Ubuntu branding" for the moment: > > > http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-branding/+filebug?field.title=Grub:+streamline+boot+entries No need f

Re: Thinking about adding a Twitter stream to the Ubuntu install slideshow

2012-01-18 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 01:37:20PM -0800, Dane Mutters wrote: > Colin Watson wrote: > > Given our scale, I'd say that the neighbourly thing to do is for Ubuntu > > installs to only touch Ubuntu network resources. However, that isn't to > > say that an Ubuntu servic

Re: Thinking about adding a Twitter stream to the Ubuntu install slideshow

2012-01-18 Thread Colin Watson
he target system, etc. It seems like a clear potential source of bugs in a component that already has more than enough of them. Fetching something from the network and rendering it as part of the slideshow is much easier (although that doesn't mean I'm volunteering to do it). -- Co

Re: Thinking about adding a Twitter stream to the Ubuntu ....

2012-01-20 Thread Colin Watson
ust copy everything file by file off the installation medium than it is to install packages. I rather expect that this is still true even if you count updates. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists

Re: multiarch pulling in i386 packages

2012-02-02 Thread Colin Watson
endency details is needed before this will work correctly with precise, but it would be better to aim for this. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe

Re: Installing 12.04 on non-pae hardware

2012-02-11 Thread Colin Watson
ubuntu.com/netboot/precise/ so that it's slightly more visible. Of course, you can always upgrade from a previous release too. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings

Re: Bulid dedicated kernels.

2012-02-11 Thread Colin Watson
taining a wide range of different kernel builds is costly in various ways, and maintaining one for each laptop range would be entirely unsustainable. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu

Re: Lucid -> Precise trouble with do-release-upgrade

2012-02-12 Thread Colin Watson
it is mentioned at [1] (this is a Kubuntu > system btw). After manually installing the package "qdbus", the system > worked. > > Please advise if and what I should report at launchpad. This is excellent information for a bug report. Please file it using 'ubuntu-bug update-

Re: Canonical can add a new services.

2012-02-14 Thread Colin Watson
already do this kind of thing for its customers. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Precise libapt-pkg update problem

2012-04-05 Thread Colin Watson
en pipe) > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/libapt-pkg4.12_0.8.16~exp12ubuntu6_i386.deb https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/924628 Steve said in our team meeting yesterday that he was actively wor

Re: [rjo...@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]

2012-04-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:13:26PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > Here's another nasty bug and some pointers from the developers > to how to fix it. Thanks. I've requested a sync of febootstrap from unstable to fix this. -- Colin Watson [cjw

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
* filesystems are mounted. Feel free to file a bug about that. -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-08 Thread Colin Watson
als/RunDirectory#FAQ -- Colin Watson [cjwat...@ubuntu.com] -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: [rjo...@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]

2012-04-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:44:26AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:44:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:13:26PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > > Here's another nasty bug and some pointers from the developers > > > t

Re: grub2 and Previous Linux versions submenu

2012-04-13 Thread Colin Watson
uot; >&2 @@ -242,13 +241,4 @@ fi list=`echo $list | tr ' ' '\n' | grep -vx $linux | tr '\n' ' '` - - if [ "$list" ] && ! $in_submenu; then -echo "submenu \"Previous Linux versions\" {" -in_submenu=: - fi done - -i

Re: ld changed linking behaviour in precise?

2012-04-18 Thread Colin Watson
rrectly, was this change intentional? > > Yes, see > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricOcelot/ReleaseNotes#GCC_4.6_Toolchain ... but not compared to precise a few days ago, as Christoph said. As far as I know, --as-needed has been in place for the lifetime of precise. -- Colin Watson

Re: Recent OpenSSL update that breaks cloudfront and rubygems.org?

2012-04-20 Thread Colin Watson
st been applying fixes from upstream). Since I'm about to be diving head-first into release chaos, I strongly encourage anyone who can to try to figure out a fix that doesn't cause connection to the other sites we just fixed to regress! -- Colin Watson

Re: Linux (or Ubuntu specific) tools to measure number of page faults

2012-05-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 10:04:47PM -0400, Phillip Susi wrote: > Note that you need to explicitly specify /usr/bin/time to prevent the > shell builtin time command from being used, which is more limited. Or 'command time'. -- Colin Watson

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