In revisions past, Ubuntu's CDs did not have enough space to accommodate
aptitude and apt-get. Now that we have moved on to DVDs I feel it would
be a worthy investment to include aptitude by default, especially since
it is Debian's 'proper' package management tool.
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On 04/09/2013 08:21 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Maybe I was not very explicit - all console applications are "niche"
on the Ubuntu (gui) Desktop. And vice versa, gui-desktop applications
are nice on the Ubuntu (console) Server.
We have aptitude seeded where console is the default interface.
On
On 04/09/2013 11:57 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
ranting wont get you anywhere ...
That wasn't my intention.
aptitude is not the recommended tool in ubuntu and never was (at least
in the 9 years i work on ubuntu) ... if it is recommended anywhere that
is definitely wrong and this recommendation s
On 04/09/2013 12:17 PM, Alexandre Strube wrote:
Why?
Because aptitude is the successor to apt-get, endorsed by the community
that does all the packaging for this OS, is more stable, and has better
dependency handling (indeed, promotes better dependency setting). It
makes no sense to keep a l
On 04/09/2013 12:19 PM, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote:
This is actually being debated over on debian-devel as we type. So
some piece of text from the Debian FAQ that simply hasn't been updated
in a long time doesn't trump anything.
So the reason for not even considering this as an option is be
It is consistent to the dumbing down of our society, which
is not necessarily a bad thing. All modern cars are built for
"idiots" to use. If these same "idiots" think they know how
to use a computer (as they think that they are really drivers)
then there is some overall benefit.
The prices of c
On 04/09/2013 12:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It is in no way a successor to apt.
I did _not say_ it was a successor to apt. Forget I ever brought
anything up.
Scott K
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On 04/09/2013 12:45 PM, Oliver Grawert wrote:
Forget it - forget it. One could have said that all of Ubuntu's software
depended on apt-get from the get-go. But instead I get a barrage of
messages of people just telling me that my thought was stupid.
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On 04/09/2013 12:54 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
Debian endorsements or discouragements for aptitude are not very
relevant for what ubuntu should ship by default on ubuntu desktop.
And apt-get is the default upgrade tool in debian.
[1]
http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/release-notes/c
On 04/09/2013 12:53 PM, Riccardo Padovani wrote:
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Brett Cornwall
wrote:
On 04/09/2013 12:40 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
It is in no way a successor to apt.
I did _not say_ it was a successor to apt. Forget I ever brought anything
up.
On Tue, Apr 9
On 04/09/2013 12:57 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
It was never meant as a successor.
My mistake.
"endorsed by the community" - not true. I'm a Debian Developer and
Ubuntu Core Dev and I don't endorse either aptitude nor apt-get.
Well, I'm going by the goddamn page that's been there for years
On 04/09/2013 04:01 PM, Clint Byrum wrote:
Who removed your choice?
Defaults are simply opinions, not rules. Install your divergent choices,
and be happy.
I have to really emphasize, especially as I was the topic creator, that
I was discussing the possibility of replacing apt-get with aptit
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