Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Tom H
IMO, we'll end up sooner or later using NM on X-less boxes by default NM on Fedora can now handle bonding and bridging by reading "/etc/sysconfig/netwok-scripts/ifcfg-*" files. I was curious about whether NM could do the same by reading "/etc/network/interfaces" so I've just tried to install NM i

Re: The place of the Ubuntu Software Center regarding Steam, Desura and others

2012-08-22 Thread Dylan McCall
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 11:00 PM, David Klasinc wrote: > Implementation wise, I think the best way would be if PPA system can be > extended to offer necessary support for selling software. This way Steam, > Desura and alike could offer a simple PPA. PlayOnLinux could probably do > this already. >

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Tom H's message of 2012-08-22 00:24:11 -0700: > IMO, we'll end up sooner or later using NM on X-less boxes by default > I do not share your opinion. While I'm not ifupdown's biggest fan, it will likely be the network configuration tool of choice on servers for the forseeable future.

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Tom H wrote: > IMO, we'll end up sooner or later using NM on X-less boxes by default It might be the case eventually, but we're not there yet. > NM on Fedora can now handle bonding and bridging by reading > "/etc/sysconfig/netwok-scripts/ifcfg-*" files. > > I was

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 04:56:40PM -0400, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:24 AM, Tom H wrote: > > IMO, we'll end up sooner or later using NM on X-less boxes by default > > It might be the case eventually, but we're not there yet. I usually de-install it on servers. A s

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > I usually de-install it on servers. A server has the interfaces > and static IP addresses I tell it has and it should never, ever > even consider overriding those settings. > > NM is okay (usually) for portable luser devices, but not for > the ra

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Dale Amon
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 07:40:58PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > prefer to stay away from it, preference perhaps? But with preference > comes the problem that NM relies on wpasupplicant and a couple of > other wireless tools that we would absolutely never need on a server, > unless we are crazy or

Re: The place of the Ubuntu Software Center regarding Steam, Desura and others

2012-08-22 Thread Nicolas Michel
I agree with Dylan. Valve is not likely to package their games because their purpose if I understand well is to make Steam a multi-plateform distribution software. I think that Ubuntu Software Center could only integrate their list of software to ease and centralize the search. But it would probabl

Re: Network Manager dependencies

2012-08-22 Thread Emmet Hikory
Dale Amon wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 07:40:58PM -0500, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > > prefer to stay away from it, preference perhaps? But with preference > > comes the problem that NM relies on wpasupplicant and a couple of > > other wireless tools that we would absolutely never need on a server,