Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre < mathieu...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Dane Mutters wrote: > [...] > > So, now that we've gotten some matters of conduct out of the way (we > have, > > haven't we?), does anyone care to suggest what to do about

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

Le 11/04/2012 09:39, Dane Mutters a écrit : It seems to have been optimized for netbooks, and as such, lacks much of what desktop (and large laptop) users find essential and/or appropriate. Hi, That's simply not true, unity works great on a big screen (using a 24" screen here), it gives out

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:11:47AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 08:46:23 PM Dane Mutters wrote: > Ubuntu is on a train and that train is called Unity. The tracks are being > laid within Canonical and it is very difficult to influence where they are > being > put do

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 12:39:51 AM Dane Mutters wrote: > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:26 PM, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre < > > mathieu...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Dane Mutters wrote: > > [...] > > > > > So, now that we've gotten some matters of conduct out of the w

SSD with ubuntu -- Developer guidance please

Hi everyone. My name is Nicholas. I have a new computer that has an Intel SSD. I have some questions about using Ubuntu with an SSD that I hope ubuntu developers can answer for me. I've researched online but do not know how best to proceed as there seems to be differing advice. I see it

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

> > That said, if you can find specific things you are having problems with > and make > specific suggestions about how to solve the problems that are generally > their > direction, you've got a chance of being heard. "Go back to what it was" > has > no chance at > all.

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 09:54:55 -0700 Dane Mutters wrote: > If I might recommend one final thing...can the essence of this > discussion be somehow posted in an easy-to-find place on Ubuntu's > various web pages and forums? It would be helpful to have an > official notice that "this is how it is, a

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:39:51AM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: > "desktop-centric" version in the foreseeable future? Has there been any > discussion of it? Finally, would a petition with, say, 100,000 signatures > (or whatever large number seems appropriate), delivered to Mark > Shuttleworth, be

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 02:01:22PM -0500, C de-Avillez wrote: > A lot of people left KDE when KDE4 was put out. A lot returned, others > went elsewhere. A lot of people will leave Gnome3, or > . It happens, > people (in general) do not like change. But if I do not like something, > and I want to _h

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

Le 11/04/2012 21:21, Dale Amon a écrit : If Ubuntu wishes to gain market share, then it must meet customer needs and not cause undue havoc with the operations of companies all over the world. Well, that's why Ubuntu has LTS versions and extended support to 5 years for this one, so people who nee

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 09:33:54PM +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > You also assume that > - what you used before was "meet(ing) customer needs" better than > Unity, it might be true for you or your customer, it doesn't mean > your case is the most common one in the world Just curious, what is the

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

Dale Amon wrote: >On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 02:01:22PM -0500, C de-Avillez wrote: >> A lot of people left KDE when KDE4 was put out. A lot returned, >others >> went elsewhere. A lot of people will leave Gnome3, or >> . It happens, >> people (in general) do not like change. But if I do not like >s

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

Dale, please note that this is the "ubuntu-devel-discuss" list. You are not talking to Canonical. You're not even talking to the main developer list "ubuntu-devel". This is an "open-to-anyone" list and I don't even know how many developers pay attention to it. They certainly pay less attention

RE: SSD with ubuntu -- Developer guidance please

I am interested in getting feedback on this from actual ubuntu developers about what they recommend.. Hopefully my 3 questions can be succinctly answered without much trouble? > Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 10:56:36 -0400 > From: mgol...@mitchgolden.com > To: niabb...@live.com > Subject: Re: SSD with

Re: SSD with ubuntu -- Developer guidance please

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/2012 10:19 AM, Nicholas Abbott wrote: > I have a new computer that has an Intel SSD. I have some questions > about using Ubuntu with an SSD that I hope ubuntu developers can > answer for me. I've researched online but do not know how best to >

Re: [rjo...@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]

On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:44:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:13:26PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > Here's another nasty bug and some pointers from the developers > > to how to fix it. > > Thanks. I've requested a sync of febootstrap from unstable to fix this. Colin:

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

> > What we had was a rant followed by another rant followed by... I do not > know, I stopped in the middle of the second rant. ScootK was very right > when referring to the delete option. > > ... > But if I do not like something, > and I want to _help_ change it, I need to put out a very clear >

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

On Wednesday, April 11, 2012 08:44:18 PM Dane Mutters wrote: > For what it's worth, I came into this discussion hoping to outline specific > problems in the GUI design process and come to useful conclusions about how > to fix it. It would seem that, while many of the people here are, indeed, > wor

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

> > Part of the problem you're having in this discussion is that Ubuntu > developers > don't develop Unity. It's a separate project within Canonical that > operates > much like any upstream does. The distribution developers have some > influence > and do, in some cases, contribute to it, but it's

Re: [rjo...@redhat.com: Re: Suggestions on building VM disks from scratch]

On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 02:44:26AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 11:44:22PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 10:13:26PM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > > Here's another nasty bug and some pointers from the developers > > > to how to fix it. > > > > Thanks. I'