update-manager dropped from repository; friendly update method?

2010-11-06 Thread Delan Azabani
Hi all, update-manager seems to have been dropped from the repository, as it's under "Local or obsolete" on all my boxes. Is this an intended Ubuntu change, moving away from the update manager? I have read about software-center possibly acquiring more package management features in future, but se

Re: update-manager dropped from repository; friendly update method?

2010-11-06 Thread Delan Azabani
On 06/11/10 16:27, YunQiang Su wrote: > did you use a well-maintained rep? > > or did you update metadata? I'm using archive.ubuntu.com. Oddly, update-manager has come back and the 'removal' is gone. Sorry for the noise. What could cause this on the *main* package server? -- Ubuntu-devel-discus

Re: update-manager dropped from repository; friendly update method?

2010-11-06 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:34:12PM +0800, Delan Azabani wrote: > On 06/11/10 16:27, YunQiang Su wrote: > > did you use a well-maintained rep? > > > > or did you update metadata? > > I'm using archive.ubuntu.com. Oddly, update-manager has come back and > the 'removal' is gone. Sorry for the noise.

Re: update-manager dropped from repository; friendly update method?

2010-11-06 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: > Curiously, I've update-manager 1:0.142.21, which is newer than the > latest version in maverick-updates, 1:0.142.20.  How did I get it? > Was it included in maverick-proposed at some point? Yes. update-manager (1:0.142.21) maverick-propose

Space optimisations: OpenJDK runtime .jar

2010-11-06 Thread Louis Simard
Matthias, In a posting from 'More LiveCD space optimizations' [1], you asked if the Java VM would open recompressed .jar files as quickly as the originals. I wrote a benchmark to assess this, by using the largest .jar there is: the Java library itself! :) I've split off this benchmark result to i

Re: update-manager dropped from repository; friendly update method?

2010-11-06 Thread Delan Azabani
On 06/11/10 19:15, YunQiang Su wrote: > Or maybe when update has not finished and and you close it. > > such as apt-get update&Ctrl-C > > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 6:29 PM, Delan Azabani wrote: > >> On 06/11/10 17:08, YunQiang Su wrote: >>> Did you use update, backports, or security repo? >>> >>>

Re: update-manager dropped from repository; friendly update method?

2010-11-06 Thread Delan Azabani
On 07/11/10 00:24, Andrew Starr-Bochicchio wrote: > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote: >> Curiously, I've update-manager 1:0.142.21, which is newer than the >> latest version in maverick-updates, 1:0.142.20. How did I get it? >> Was it included in maverick-proposed at some poi

Re: More LiveCD space optimizations

2010-11-06 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 16:20 -0400, Martin Pitt wrote: > One thing that currently needs it is usb-modeswitch. I'd love the > usb-modeswitch-dispatcher thing to be rewritten in C, Vala, or another > compiled language. Not only is it holding tcl in the default install, > but it also dramatically slows

Re: Feature suggestions: optionally placing home folder into separate partition during ubuntu install

2010-11-06 Thread Daniel Gross
Hello Matthew, I wonder whether the definition of user data is well understood. Does it include all configuration data of installed packages? Does it include data stored in non-standard locations? What about user data stored by different applications? Do all applications behave and place their dat