Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Florian Rehnisch
Well, I'm not much of an Ubuntu user. But I've been hanging around on the internet since there wasn't no Google at all. Today, the average user expects to find a Google search pane in their Firefox, Chromium, Konqueror -- so why dump it? Is there a sensible alternative? flori -- Ubuntu-devel

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:50:05AM +, Harry Strongburg wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 07:58:29PM -0700, Jordan wrote: > > Why not drop Google and go for a more private search engine? > > Yes, let's suggest for Ubuntu users use an obscure search engine, > because they are worried someone at

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Brian Vaughan
On 09/11/2010 07:49 AM, Florian Rehnisch wrote: > Well, I'm not much of an Ubuntu user. > > But I've been hanging around on the internet since there wasn't no Google > at all. Today, the average user expects to find a Google search > pane in their Firefox, Chromium, Konqueror -- so why dump it? >

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Simon Ponder
What other engine do you use, if you do not mind me asking? Simon Ponder > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:50:05AM +, Harry Strongburg wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 07:58:29PM -0700, Jordan wrote: >> > Why not drop Google and go for a more private search engine? >> >> Yes, let's suggest for Ubu

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Brian Vaughan
On 09/11/2010 12:06 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If you > are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at China's > whim go right ahead. Google puts their profit ahead of their stated > support of the free flow of inform

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Jordan
On 09/10/2010 08:14 PM, Martin Albisetti wrote: > On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Jordan wrote: > >> Dear Ubuntu Developers, >> >> I'm not sure if I'm the first person to suggest this, but lately >> Google's reputation has diminished, especially with talk of them being >> Big Brother (yes, I

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:50:05AM +, Harry Strongburg wrote: >> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 07:58:29PM -0700, Jordan wrote: >> > Why not drop Google and go for a more private search engine? >> >> Yes, let's suggest for

Re: Overriding binaries in Debian Source 3 (quilt)

2010-09-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 10:57:05AM +0100, Dave Walker wrote: > I assumed that leaving it a day or so, would mean that the buildd > environment updating to that dpkg version would mean that this issue is > resolved for Maverick. > > However, this seems not to be the case. When uploading to Maveric

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:21:51PM -0400, Simon Ponder wrote: > What other engine do you use, if you do not mind me asking? ..snip.. Icerocket, although it's been getting flaky on me as of late. -- Bob Holtzman Key ID: 8D549279 "If you think you're getting free lunch,

Re: The new installer.

2010-09-11 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 06:22:44PM +0530, Owais Lone wrote: > I wonder what will the new installer install if I check the > "install proprietary software.". Media codecs? Drivers? > A lot of my friends have the broadcom wifi in their laptops, the driver is > shipped with the Ubuntu CD. bcmwl-kernel

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:23:51PM -0700, Brian Vaughan wrote: > On 09/11/2010 12:06 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: > > Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If you > > are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at China's > > whim go right ahead. Google puts

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:17:06PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: > > > --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman > wrote: ..snip.. > > > > Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If you > > are willing to use a search e

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Manish Sinha
On Sunday 12 September 2010 12:49 AM, Jordan wrote: > Google does store user's information, such as I.P. addresses and the > searches (yes, the I.P. address goes away after 8 months) and they > transmit a crazy amount information back to the server (autocomplete for > instance). Well IP address

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Jordan wrote: > Again, only a suggestion...I'm trying to make Ubuntu better as much as > the next guy.  Sorry if I made anyone angry. Sorry my reply was so dry. I shouldn't reply to email on Friday evenings :) I appreciate spirit of your idea, and great things h

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:51 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:17:06PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: >> >> >> --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman >> wrote: > > ..snip.. > >> > >> > Google's archiving al

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:33 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:21:51PM -0400, Simon Ponder wrote: >> What other engine do you use, if you do not mind me asking? > >..snip.. > > Icerocket, although it's been getting flaky on me as

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 12:06:36PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: > If you are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at > China's whim go right ahead. Google puts their profit ahead of their > stated support of the free flow of information. Only the lazy or those > who are uninfor

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Friday, September 10, 2010 7:58 PM -0700 Jordan wrote: > Dear Ubuntu Developers, > > I'm not sure if I'm the first person to suggest this, but lately > Google's reputation has diminished, especially with talk of them being > Big Brother (yes, I know what server my email's on). Why not dr

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:34:25PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: > > > --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:33 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman > wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 03:21:51PM -0400, Simon Ponder wrote: > >> What other engine do you use, if you do not mind me asking? > > > >

Re: Dump Google?

2010-09-11 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:32:31PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: > > > --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 3:51 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman > wrote: > > > On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:17:06PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote: > >> > >> > >> --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman >

Defaults and behaviour of PC Speaker in future Ubuntu *Server* releases

2010-09-11 Thread Yaniv Aknin
Hi, Today I ran into the subject of causing my home server to beep using /usr/bin/beep from package beep and using kernel module pcspkr. It took a bit of work to get things going and I had to read a bit for it, and here's the summary of what I think is the state of things: (1) Sometime around Karm