Re: Desktop CDs: Around 60 MB saved on the installed system, 28 MB in binary packages

2010-08-12 Thread Till Kamppeter
On 08/12/2010 08:43 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello Till, > > Till Kamppeter [2010-08-12 8:22 +0200]: >> Why does it add 15 MB? > > Because I can't read numbers properly. (sorry..) > > Wow, this is an amazing reduction! > > You introduced 8 MB of savings, so you are of course very entitled to > pu

Re: Desktop CDs: Around 60 MB saved on the installed system, 28 MB in binary packages

2010-08-12 Thread Till Kamppeter
On 08/12/2010 08:43 AM, Martin Pitt wrote: > Hello Till, > > Till Kamppeter [2010-08-12 8:22 +0200]: >> Why does it add 15 MB? > > Because I can't read numbers properly. (sorry..) > > Wow, this is an amazing reduction! > > You introduced 8 MB of savings, so you are of course very entitled to > pu

Re: Desktop CDs: Around 60 MB saved on the installed system, 28 MB in binary packages

2010-08-12 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 3:48 AM, Till Kamppeter wrote: > And I have freed another 2.3 MB (60 KB of .debs) in the installed > system, by applying the PPD compression to splix. /usr/share/ppd is > below 1 MB now. You, sir, win one internets! :D http://www.flickr.com/photos/goopymart/3125898045/in

Re: Maverick Alpha3 +nvidia-96 +updates

2010-08-12 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-August/000744.html On 12 August 2010 04:43, NoOp wrote: > Loaded up Maverick Alpha3 a simple test 32bit machine (Intel Motherboard > 1Ghz/348Mb) with an nVidia NV25GL [Quadro4 900 XGL] card. All working > well; get notification for a dr

The new installer.

2010-08-12 Thread Owais Lone
I wonder what will the new installer install if I check the "install proprietary software.". Media codecs? Drivers? A lot of my friends have the broadcom wifi in their laptops, the driver is shipped with the Ubuntu CD. bcmwl-kernel-source. Would be great to have it installed automatically if the ha

Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. It also did this on another server I upgraded, and that server runs lighttpd too! >Selecting pre

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Krenar Qehaja
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Harry Strongburg wrote: > Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? > It is not AFAIK. I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed > Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. > You might have

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Harry Strongburg" wrote: >Why is apache2 in the default Ubuntu install? > >I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04 LTS today, and the upgrade procedure installed >Apache2 onto my box, even though I have had it autoremoved for a long time. >It also did this on another server I upgraded, and that server

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:34:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It's not in the default install. Look at the output of aptitude why > apache2-mpm-prefork to see what pulled it in. So it just happened to have been auto-installed on all the boxes I upgraded from 9.10 to 10.04? That's weird. H

Re: Maverick Alpha3 +nvidia-96 +updates

2010-08-12 Thread NoOp
On 08/12/2010 03:18 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-August/000744.html Right... and 2:1.8.99.905-1ubuntu would be included in that? Or would it primarily be the difference between the updates inlcuded in 2:1.8.99.905-1ubuntu from 2:1.8.1.9

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Hi, Not wishing to get involved in arguments, but an LTS is just that. As apache is the major market of hhtp [1] it is imprortant for LTS that it will be able to be supported for five years. This would not be possible with apache1. Regards, Phill [1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_HTTP_Server

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Scott Kitterman
"Harry Strongburg" wrote: >On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 09:34:24PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> It's not in the default install. Look at the output of aptitude why >> apache2-mpm-prefork to see what pulled it in. > >So it just happened to have been auto-installed on all the boxes I upgraded >

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Harry Strongburg
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 03:55:24AM +0100, Phillip Whiteside wrote: > Not wishing to get involved in arguments, but an LTS is just that. As apache > is the major market of hhtp [1] it is imprortant for LTS that it will be > able to be supported for five years. This would not be possible with > apach

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Martin Pitt
Hello Harry, Harry Strongburg [2010-08-13 4:55 +]: > I found out why though, it's packaged with php5, which is also > pretty stupid to do. If a user installs PHP, they should also > install any httpd they want. Not Apache automatically. php5 installs everything related to PHP, which includes

Re: Maverick Alpha3 +nvidia-96 +updates

2010-08-12 Thread Robert Hooker
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:15 PM, NoOp wrote: > On 08/12/2010 03:18 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2010-August/000744.html > > Right... and 2:1.8.99.905-1ubuntu would be included in that? Or would it > primarily be the difference between the

Re: Apache2 in default Ubuntu install

2010-08-12 Thread Phillip Whiteside
Although, In Harry's defence I'd like to point out that using tasksel for a LAMP installation does at least give you a choice of apache2 or lightpd. So, php should not really be dragging anything in as a 'depends'. Those wishing to install LAMP can do so quite easily. Regards, Phill. On Fri, Au