Infrastructure vs. Interface

2009-07-02 Thread Patrick Goetz
> Date: Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:57:01 -0300 > From: Felipe Figueiredo > Subject: RFC: binary compatibility between short cycles > To: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com > > Infrastructure could be kept at stable versions for longer cycles, and > Interface would match the usual 6 month release cycl

Re: Infrastructure vs. Interface

2009-07-02 Thread Felipe Figueiredo
Patrick, thanks for your comments. I'll address them separately. On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:40 -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote: > The counterexample to this can be found in the just posted Pulseaudio > v0.9.16~test1 availability announcement: Everyone seems to agree that > audio on linux needs to s

Make the Gnome Menu more accessible/intuitive

2009-07-02 Thread David
In general I have found Gnome to operate exactly in the manner that I would expect it too. For instance, unlike Windows, a dialog in one program does not prevent the use of other programs. However, there are nevertheless some shortcomings. One of the biggest is the Gnome Menu. There is no built-in

Re: Infrastructure vs. Interface

2009-07-02 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Thu, 2009-07-02 at 13:40 -0500, Patrick Goetz wrote: ... snip ... > One area where I agree that there is considerable room for improvement > and something that would have to be fixed in order for your idea to work > is package dependencies. Currently most people use stuff like debhelper > to

Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Onno Benschop
As Ubuntu becomes more and more popular, the resources we use to communicate within our community become saturated with the sounds made by new and learning users. This is not a new thing, nor is it undesirable, but unless we find ways to deal with the increasing background noise, we have a real cha

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Onno Benschop
On 03/07/09 08:00, Tim Hawkins wrote: > Would the production of a system similar to the "Yahoo Answers" > approach help with some of this, Yahoo Answers > awards points to answers that are chosen as top answers for various > questions, and in essence becomes a "living FAQ". Its more > task orientat

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Owens
Hello Onno, Your post is very well written and some of the projects beeing worked on in the community space are set up to deal with some of the issues you raise: * Education, the ubuntu-learning project is kicking off a structured mechanism for teaching and educating users, sys-admins, contribut

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Evan
Coincidentally, Bryce recently posted a couple of blog posts dealing with "Me too" storms on launchpad [1]+[2] which are related. I don't claim to be an expert on this, but as I see it the problem comes down to channels. Various channels of communication can hold different numbers of active partic

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Andrew Sayers
Evan wrote: I like this idea in principle, but in practice I'd be worried about messages being pushed back and forth between forums - your sound driver breaks, and the audio forum pushes your question to the driver forum, which pushes you back to the sound forum, ad nauseum. I suspect the ans

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Evan
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:08 PM, Andrew Sayers < andrew-ubuntu-de...@pileofstuff.org> wrote: > Evan wrote: > > > I like this idea in principle, but in practice I'd be worried about > messages being pushed back and forth between forums - your sound driver > breaks, and the audio forum pushes your

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Andrew Sayers
The Ubuntu community is growing, and as Evan mentioned, our current channels of communication can only support a finite rate of messages. So there are only two possible solutions: increase the supply of meat-bandwidth, or decrease the demand. Other posts have interesting ideas about increasing

Re: Make the Gnome Menu more accessible/intuitive

2009-07-02 Thread Evan R. Murphy
2009/7/2 David : > In general I have found Gnome to operate exactly in the manner that I > would expect it too. For instance, unlike Windows, a dialog in one > program does not prevent the use of other programs. However, there are > nevertheless some shortcomings. One of the biggest is the Gnome Me

External storage ejection notifications

2009-07-02 Thread Davyd McColl
With the spanky new Jaunty notifications in place for commonplace items such as IM messages, I have found it rather disappointing that we've actually *lost* the "safe to remove media" notifications that I came to love and wait patiently for under prior versions of Ubuntu. In the place of a rather