Deprecating slocate for desktop users?

2008-01-02 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi, Are there still grounds for keeping slocate in cron.daily for desktop users? At least I'm annoyed by it running on my computers every day, and I always either remove it or move it to cron.monthly for the occasional use. Still, I think there is no GUI for it anyway, and everyone's home dire

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Fergal Daly
On 02/01/2008, Jonathan Musther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree, we don't have any usage stats. Although I was defending VOIP, I > don't know of anybody who has successfully used Ekiga. Wengo is a > possibility (I've been trying it) and it supports IM protocols too so you > can use it for go

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Kai Schroeder
Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Jan 1, 2008 8:45 PM, Jonathan Musther <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > I agree, we don't have any usage stats. Although I was defending > VOIP, I don't know of anybody who has successfully used Ekiga. > Wengo is a possibility (I

Re: Team TODO pages

2008-01-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Nov 29, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Daniel Holbach wrote: ... A page worth looking at is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/TODO - it includes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/WeeklyTODO which has a neat table overview over what's going on. The color code is derived from the release schedule pa

Re: Failure starting X on hp 6715s laptop, ati x1250 graphics card, with alpha2

2008-01-02 Thread Tormod Volden
Pär Lidén gmail.com> writes: > /etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments > Warning: Could not retrieve EDID because get-edid is not installed (1) > open_sock(): Permission denied > : error: this program dows not know how to configure the "10 > shared/default-x-server doesn't exist X

Re: Failure starting X on hp 6715s laptop, ati x1250 graphics card, with alpha2

2008-01-02 Thread Pär Lidén
Ok, good to know, thank you very much! /Pär 2008/1/2, Tormod Volden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Pär Lidén gmail.com> writes: > > /etc/gdm/failsafeXserver: line 47: [: too many arguments > > Warning: Could not retrieve EDID because get-edid is not installed (1) > > open_sock(): Permission denied > >

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Pär Lidén
Well, maybe there should be two different versions of the LTS release: One for the home-users where the applications are upgraded And another for corporate use, where they are not. /Pär 2008/1/1, Joel Bryan Juliano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On 12/31/07, Evan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Jon
On Jan 2, 2008 11:21 AM, Pär Lidén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, maybe there should be two different versions of the LTS release: > One for the home-users where the applications are upgraded > And another for corporate use, where they are not. > > /Pär > > 2008/1/1, Joel Bryan Juliano <[EMAIL

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Pär Lidén
2008/1/2, Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Jan 2, 2008 11:21 AM, Pär Lidén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, maybe there should be two different versions of the LTS release: > > One for the home-users where the applications are upgraded > > And another for corporate use, where they are not. > >

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Cory K.
Pär Lidén wrote: > Well, maybe there should be two different versions of the LTS release: > One for the home-users where the applications are upgraded > And another for corporate use, where they are not. > > /Pär As its been said many times before on this subject, having backports enabled accompli

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Jan 2, 2008 6:23 AM, Fergal Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If your setup is relatively straight-forward or you are able to open > ports on your firewall then you don't have be SIP expert to get it > working - I know nothing about SIP I got it to work by following the > docs, > I'm going to

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Fergal Daly
On 02/01/2008, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 2, 2008 6:23 AM, Fergal Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If your setup is relatively straight-forward or you are able to open > > ports on your firewall then you don't have be SIP expert to get it > > working - I know nothing

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Emmet Hikory
On Jan 3, 2008 2:02 AM, Fergal Daly wrote: > Then I'm not sure how you got any of the other SIP clients to work. As > I understand it, unless the machine yon which you are running the SIP > client has a publicly accessible IP address, you will not be able to > use SIP unless you have a way to twidd

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Fergal Daly
On 02/01/2008, Emmet Hikory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 3, 2008 2:02 AM, Fergal Daly wrote: > > Then I'm not sure how you got any of the other SIP clients to work. As > > I understand it, unless the machine yon which you are running the SIP > > client has a publicly accessible IP address, y

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread George Farris
On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 17:39 +1300, Jonathan Musther wrote: > I've just been trying it for IM, you're right, it doesn't stand up - > but it is better than Ekiga for VOIP stuf, or seems to be based on my > early impressions. I also agree with your assessment of pidgin. I use Ekiga all the time wit

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2008-01-02 Thread Bryan Haskins
Most Clients for X program just us UPnP these days, so most people are understandably spoiled by it. On Jan 2, 2008 12:02 PM, Fergal Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 02/01/2008, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jan 2, 2008 6:23 AM, Fergal Daly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: LVM on hardy's live installer?

2008-01-02 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 01-01-2008 om 12:28 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: > On Jan 1, 2008 7:14 AM, Lex Hider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is there any plans to enable LVM for the live cd installers for > > hardy? > > The Alternate CD has, as far as I'm aware, always had it, but I don't > t

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 01-01-2008 om 14:07 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: > Couldn't there be a LUM (linux-updated-modules) > compiled for LTS to add support for newer hardware? It's called 'linux-backports-modules' and is available since "gutsy". -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss m

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
oh cool. I didn't see that on the Gutsy release notes. Well, that doesn't help Dapper users, but for Hardy it should be very useful. On Jan 2, 2008 7:20 PM, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op dinsdag 01-01-2008 om 14:07 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Mackenzie > Morgan: > > Couldn't ther

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2008-01-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:21:14 +0200 "Pär Lidén" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well, maybe there should be two different versions of the LTS release: >One for the home-users where the applications are upgraded >And another for corporate use, where they are not. I've been following this thread and am cu

Re: LVM on hardy's live installer?

2008-01-02 Thread Lex Hider
Jan Claeys wrote: > Op dinsdag 01-01-2008 om 12:28 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Mackenzie > Morgan: >> On Jan 1, 2008 7:14 AM, Lex Hider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Is there any plans to enable LVM for the live cd installers for >>> hardy? >> The Alternate CD has, as far as I'm aware, always ha

Re: LVM on hardy's live installer?

2008-01-02 Thread Onno Benschop
On 03/01/08 12:29, Lex Hider wrote: > Jan Claeys wrote: > >> Op dinsdag 01-01-2008 om 12:28 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Mackenzie >> Morgan: >> >>> On Jan 1, 2008 7:14 AM, Lex Hider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Is there any plans to enable LVM for the live cd installers for