Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-31 Thread Francesco Fumanti
At 12:15 PM -0500 12/26/07, Phillip Susi wrote: >Chris Martin wrote: >> I have been following this and I thought I would add my 2 cents worth >> (1) At shutdown is good >> (2) Timeout/interuptable ­ is good >> (3) BUT. The default action should be ³No Action² >> >> At shutdown

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-31 Thread HggdH
> - for people with several disks: when a fsck is > needed for a disk, add the option to run the fsck on all the disks, > even if it is not needed yet; > this would minimize how often the user will be > prompted for a fsck, as all the disks would be > checked simultaneously. I agree with all,

Re: fsck on boot is major usability issue

2007-12-31 Thread Francesco Fumanti
At 7:22 AM -0600 12/31/07, HggdH wrote: > > - for people with several disks: when a fsck is >> needed for a disk, add the option to run the fsck on all the disks, >> even if it is not needed yet; >> this would minimize how often the user will be >> prompted for a fsck, as all the disks would b

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2007-12-31 Thread Evan
> > Given that the current > development cycle consists of 2 weeks planning, 15 weeks of feature > updates & integration, 6 weeks of integration, and 3 weeks of final > testing, it seems that any further reduction in the timeframes would > likely lead to a somewhat unstable final product, and would

Re: What is 'administrivia'?

2007-12-31 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
I've tried, unsuccessfully, to use Ekiga a few times. I got Wengophone to work once. I know a lot of other people have had issues with Ekiga not connecting to anything. Maybe that's changed since Dapper, but I don't know. It didn't work for me with Feisty--that's when I tried Wengo. On Dec 30,

VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2007-12-31 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Mon, Dec 31, 2007 at 01:41:20PM -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > I've tried, unsuccessfully, to use Ekiga a few times. I got > Wengophone to work once. I know a lot of other people have had > issues with Ekiga not connecting to anything. Maybe that's changed > since Dapper, but I don't know.

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2007-12-31 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 31-12-2007 om 12:00 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Evan: > > Given that the current > > development cycle consists of 2 weeks planning, 15 weeks of feature > > updates & integration, 6 weeks of integration, and 3 weeks of final > > testing, it seems that any further reduction in the timef

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2007-12-31 Thread Emmet Hikory
On Jan 1, 2008 2:00 AM, Evan wrote: > > Given that the current > > development cycle consists of 2 weeks planning, 15 weeks of feature > > updates & integration, 6 weeks of integration, and 3 weeks of final > > testing, it seems that any further reduction in the timeframes would > > likely lead to

Re: Strawman: Change the Ubuntu Release Cycle

2007-12-31 Thread Sarah Hobbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Evan wrote: > My original worry in starting this thread was that the six-month cycle was > too short. I find that the normal releases aren't *quite* stable enough for > every-day use (even in a home environment) because of the features that are > only

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2007-12-31 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Dec 31, 2007 3:03 PM, Neal McBurnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had success with ekiga. Removing it from main without a free > alternative would be a setback. > Just to clarify, Wengo is GPL'd. -- Mackenzie Morgan Linux User #432169 ACM Member #3445683 http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.bl

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2007-12-31 Thread Bryan Haskins
Unfortunately, and I say this as a Skype using hypocrite, it'll be fairly hard to pull any newcomers to anything but Skype. It's just what they know, brand recognition, they thing calls on your computer, Skype, not SIP itself or open source shells/GUI clients for it. I am however all for trying to

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2007-12-31 Thread Evan
I'm just saying that it isn't used widely enough to be included in the cd. Certainly leave it in main, but I don't think voip in general is popular enough (yet) to include a client. A finance manager like Gnucash is much more likely to be used by the default user. Evan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mai

Re: VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2007-12-31 Thread Jonathan Musther
I think it's used widely. And if I think it is, and you think it isn't, then sensible conclusion to draw is that in some circles it's used widely, in others it's not. so overall it's used quite a bit. I have to say I don't know anybody (business owners aside) that uses a finance manager on their