Onno Benschop wrote:
> On 04/12/07 01:28, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>
>> I think allowing the developers of the distribution, those who have a
>> real stake in the success of the software in its entirety, to decide
>> where to focus their efforts is superior to allowing the mob to decide
>> wha
Blaise Alleyne wrote:
> True, but there's the additional question - is this the appropriate
> place for that sort of discussion? In other words, sure, the developers
> need a place to discuss things free from the mob, but the mob also
> needs to be able to participate and voice their concerns/appro
On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 12:30:23PM +, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:43:34PM -0800, MJang wrote:
> > Wondering where Ubuntu is going w/r/t automated installations. I see
> > bits on Kickseed, but nothing in Gutsy. I see per
> > https://launchpad.net/kickseed/ that it was in
On Mon, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:26:35PM +0100, Jan Claeys wrote:
> Op maandag 03-12-2007 om 15:57 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jonas
> Jørgensen:
> > I would like to ask whether it has been considered to make GParted
> > part of the default desktop install, and if so what the reasons were
> > for not i
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 11:25:35AM -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007 7:34 AM, Ped <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > From forum post I learned the sagem modem *did* work in 5.xx ubuntu
> > (probably 2.4 kernel with eagle-usb driver) right after install, but when I
> > did install 6.10 first
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 22:13 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> For those of us who are volunteers (most of us), the compromise is
> someone has to convince me it's worth my time to bother. So I'd say
> the other way around. The users who want volunteers to actually do
> free work for them need to be
On Thursday 06 December 2007 11:36, Kevin Fries wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 22:13 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > For those of us who are volunteers (most of us), the compromise is
> > someone has to convince me it's worth my time to bother. So I'd say
> > the other way around. The users who
On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 12:03 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I think you misunderstand my point.
No I got it. And I think that that thinking is wrong and dangerous to
Linux in general, and Ubuntu in specific.
> My concern is the idea that "because a user said they want it" is a meaninful
> me
Kevin Fries wrote:
> You allow the customers wishes to be the only real metric because you
> place Ubuntu and Linux's needs before your own. Otherwise, are you
> really helping?
*IF* I were paid I would agree. What it comes down to with many of us is
we find a niche we care about and work on that
There are some really strong arguments being put forth in this thread. I
think I can understand how all the participates feel.
I think there is a developer-user disconnect and I tried to touch on
this in my long winded "best foot forward" thread. That being said I
have contributed absolutely no
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:55:40AM -0700, Kevin Fries wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 12:03 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > I think you misunderstand my point.
>
> No I got it. And I think that that thinking is wrong and dangerous to
> Linux in general, and Ubuntu in specific.
Kevin - howdy!
On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 12:43 +, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 12:30:23PM +, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:43:34PM -0800, MJang wrote:
> > > Wondering where Ubuntu is going w/r/t automated installations. I see
> > > bits on Kickseed, but nothing in Guts
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/126515
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/124895
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.user/126118
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=reportbug&hl=de&num=30&btnG=Google-Suche&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&
This was sent to me personally, and it has comments directed to others
in the group... Therefore, I assume it was meant for the group at large.
Kevin Fries
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Hi All,
I think this thread has gotten way off topic. Can somebody in charge
flag this thread as a "dead horse" [1] ?
I think there is some good discussion going on, but those discussions
should be taken to new, fresh threads.
I do think that in order to post to lists intended for developers to
Sarah Hobbs wrote the following on 06.12.2007 12:47
> According to [2], the point of contact for users to get in touch with
> developers is ubuntu-devel-discuss.
> That being said, there are a number of developers who choose not to read
> this list, for various reasons.
one contradict th
On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kevin Fries wrote:
| This was sent to me personally, and it has comments directed to others
| in the group... Therefore, I assume it was meant for the group at large.
Thanks Kevin, sorry about that. I must have hit the wrong reply button.
--
Richard A. Johnson
[EMAI
RESENDING MY ORIGINAL POST TO THE LIST. This way Kevin doesn't blasted because
of my comments :)
On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kevin Fries wrote:
[...]
| If I don't get my steak the way I ordered it. I buy my steak from
| elsewhere. Ubuntu with no users, is not anything but an exercise in
| ego
On Thursday 06 December 2007 16:58, Richard A. Johnson wrote:
> Scott, I do have a problem with the document you linked to about asking
> smart questions. Most of the answers I have seen in there are stupid
> answers or stupid solutions. I was always raised with the idea that there
> isn't a such
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