Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 04.12.2007 um 07:58 schrieb Dane Mutters: > On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 15:57 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen wrote: >> I would consider partition editing a basic feature that should be >> provided by the operating system For advanced users, I agree. For average users, partitioning is something they sho

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Onno Benschop
On 04/12/07 17:30, Markus Hitter wrote: > As drives come partitioned off the store, why should a normal user > have a need to change this partitioning at all? > Well, for one, how are you supposed to tell Ubuntu that you have just installed a new HDD? (Other than opening up fstab and editing i

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
On Dec 4, 2007 9:30 AM, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 04.12.2007 um 07:58 schrieb Dane Mutters: > > > On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 15:57 +0100, Jonas Jørgensen wrote: > >> I would consider partition editing a basic feature that should be > >> provided by the operating system > > For adva

Boot with a degraded raid 5

2007-12-04 Thread Ben Ben
Hi all I have setup 2 software raids (5 and 0) with 3 hard disks (120, 160, 250 Go) on my gutsy box. The raid 5 array (md0) contains the root system, and the raid 0 array (md1) is mounted as a storage (unused) partition. The /boot partition is a normal ext3 partition, present on each disk (duplica

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 04.12.2007 um 09:51 schrieb Onno Benschop: > On 04/12/07 17:30, Markus Hitter wrote: >> As drives come partitioned off the store, why should a normal user >> have a need to change this partitioning at all? >> > Well, for one, how are you supposed to tell Ubuntu that you have just > installed a

Re: Clarification over Alpha 1 and dual monitors

2007-12-04 Thread Sidarth Dasari
Christopher Halse Rogers wrote: > As for the original question: you can create an xorg.conf & X will use > it. You could also try the System->Administration->Screens & Graphics > program, which should set it up for you. File bugs if it doesn't work > :). > > Well, I dont think its detecting my

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-04 Thread HggdH
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 22:55 +, (=?utf-8?q?=60=60-=5F-=C2=B4=C2=B4?=) -- Fernando wrote: > Dane , you can manually bypass this by using tune2fs, and disable the fsck on > your server. Yes, indeed this will do the trick. But it requires knowledge of some quite arcane utilities -- not usually

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-04 Thread Devin Beaulieu
Couldnt fsck be run periodically in read-only mode during normal operation (ie. while the disks are mounted), and if an error is detected ask for a restart so fsck will be run during boot-up? I am not aware of how fsck operates, so this may not be possible. On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:40 -0600, Hggd

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-04 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 08:40:25AM -0600, HggdH wrote: > I am guessing what we would need here is a reanalysis of how the checks > are done, and what could be changed to minimise the impact of such > checks. I would expect changes in the filesystems also. You're right - a deeper analysis is needed

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-04 Thread Dane Mutters
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:03 -0700, Neal McBurnett wrote: > You're right - a deeper analysis is needed. And this issue has at > least one official blueprint: > > https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/prompt-for-fsck-on-shutdown > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsckspec > > You can t

Re: Hardy Alpha 1 released

2007-12-04 Thread Conrad Knauer
On Dec 3, 2007 7:34 AM, Ped <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From forum post I learned the sagem modem *did* work in 5.xx ubuntu > (probably 2.4 kernel with eagle-usb driver) right after install, but when I > did install 6.10 first time on my PC, it took me 5 days to connect to > internet finally. The

Re: Boot with a degraded raid 5

2007-12-04 Thread ben.div
Woh ! Absolutely nobody can help me on this question ? I've already asked about this on 4-5 lists or forums, and I've cumulated : 0 answer. Where could I find help on this subject ? The kernel team ? Who has developped this part (boot on initramfs and device detection) ? I'm stucked on that prob

Re: Boot with a degraded raid 5

2007-12-04 Thread Phillip Susi
ben.div wrote: > Woh ! Absolutely nobody can help me on this question ? I've already > asked about this on 4-5 lists or forums, and I've cumulated : 0 answer. > Where could I find help on this subject ? The kernel team ? Who has > developped this part (boot on initramfs and device detection) ? >

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Caroline Ford
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 11:59 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 04.12.2007 um 10:11 schrieb Jonas Jørgensen: > > > A normal/average user won't ever use GParted, nor will they ever use > > many of the other tools in System->Administration -- but that isn't an > > argument for not including those tool

RFC: Thunderbird, mail.prompt_purge_threshhold=true

2007-12-04 Thread Thilo Six
Hi With a recent thread on ML i came again across a problem with Thunderbird that i had myself 1 or 2 years ago. Thunderbird uses mailbox files to store mails and an aditionally *.msf file for meta data of that mbox-file. Now when you delete a mail in TB it only disappears in the mail pane but is

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 04.12.2007 um 22:12 schrieb Caroline Ford: > An advanced windows user knows how to install new hard drives, [...] Yes. Ubuntu says it exists to make _un_experienced users productive. > new drives should just work. gparted won't help here. If you want to make sure new, even unformatted dri

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-04 Thread Evan
Autofsck does look like the way to go. Especially nice would be the option to run a manual fsck, although that might already be an option ('a test can be run' or is that something else?). I'm definitely in favour of this. On Dec 4, 2007 11:50 AM, Dane Mutters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue

Re: RFC: Thunderbird, mail.prompt_purge_threshhold=true

2007-12-04 Thread Alexander Sack
On Tue, Dec 04, 2007 at 09:46:56PM +0100, Thilo Six wrote: > Hi > > With a recent thread on ML i came again across a problem with Thunderbird > that i had myself 1 or 2 years ago. > > Thunderbird uses mailbox files to store mails and an aditionally *.msf file > for meta data of that mbox-file. >

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 04-12-2007 om 11:59 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Markus Hitter: > Gutsy doesn't come with a working C compiler either, > which I'd consider far more essential than a graphical partition > editor (think about installing non-packaged software). Actually, GCC is available in the small

Re: Clarification over Alpha 1 and dual monitors

2007-12-04 Thread Sidarth Dasari
> As for the original question: you can create an xorg.conf & X will use > it. You could also try the System->Administration->Screens & Graphics > program, which should set it up for you. File bugs if it doesn't work > :). > > Well I got it to detect both monitors for a little bit. At first a

Re: Patent issues with automatic codec installation

2007-12-04 Thread Chris Jones
On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 08:20 -0400, Cody A.W. Somerville wrote: > Right and thats what we do but GNU/Linux isn't about breaking the law. > > On Dec 4, 2007 5:47 AM, Chris Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I wasn't saying that paying Fluendo is silly etc. If people > wish to >

Re: RFC: Thunderbird, mail.prompt_purge_threshhold=true

2007-12-04 Thread Jan Claeys
Op dinsdag 04-12-2007 om 21:46 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Thilo Six: > 2 gig is approximately where we come to filesystem limitations (max > size per file) Actually, the (default) filesystem file size limit is at 2 TiB instead of 2 GiB, and that should be enough... ;) -- Jan Claeys -- Ub

Kickseed, Kickstart, Preseed

2007-12-04 Thread MJang
Folks, Wondering where Ubuntu is going w/r/t automated installations. I see bits on Kickseed, but nothing in Gutsy. I see per https://launchpad.net/kickseed/ that it was in Feisty. Perhaps the focus is on Kickstart or Preseed? Thanks, Mike -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-di

Re: GParted installed by default?

2007-12-04 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 05.12.2007 um 00:47 schrieb Jan Claeys: > Op dinsdag 04-12-2007 om 11:59 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Markus > Hitter: >> Gutsy doesn't come with a working C compiler either, >> which I'd consider far more essential than a graphical partition >> editor (think about installing non-packaged sof