Hi all,
Until two weeks ago, the scripts for fetching and archiving debug
symbols to [1] did not work very well for multiple releases. Due to
some race conditions and bad circumstances we lost the glibc debug
symbols for Feisty (libc6-dbgsym & friends, version 2.5-0ubuntu14).
Does anyone happen t
On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> shirish writes ("Using standardized SI prefixes"):
> > Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix .
>
> Urgh, these things are ugly and an abomination. We should avoid them.
>
> Ian.
>
I'd really like to hear some rea
On 13/06/07, Christof Krüger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd really like to hear some real arguments against SI prefixes, besides
> being ugly or funny to pronounce or just because "it has always been
> like that". Advantages of using SI prefixes has been mentioned in this
> thread. Please tell me
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 12:51 +0200, Christof Krüger wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > shirish writes ("Using standardized SI prefixes"):
> > > Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_prefix .
> >
> > Urgh, these things are ugly and an abomination.
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> Without the binary unit to consider, when we quote a drive as 1TB, we
> know that it has *at least* 1,000,000,000,000 bytes available.
> Depending on the drive, it may have anywhere between this and
> 1,099,511,627,776 bytes available.
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:01 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
> 1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no
> less.
>
No it doesn't.
The meaning of 1 TB depends on the context, and has always done so.
Scott
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I'm new to this list but have an itch I need to scratch..unfortunately
I'm a bit short of the details I need to scratch it.
We have a need here at school for the openoffice plugin for firefox on
dapper (provided by the files libnpsoplugin.so and nsplugin). Thing is
the ubuntu package for dapp
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 12:51 +0200, Christof Krüger wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2007-06-12 at 15:52 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
> > > shirish writes ("Using standardized SI prefixes"):
> > > > Please look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 08:46 -0600, Kevin Fries wrote:
> As larger and larger sizes are used, what was once an minor difference,
> is starting to become significant. It almost reminds me of that old
> scam of taking the rounded portions of a penny in financial calculations
> and putting into an ac
> I received 107% of the gas I thought I paid for. I am a delighted
> customer.
Conversely: "The file I downloaded took 7% longer to download than I
thought it would. I am less than delighted."
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> Let me start with a dumb example:
> For a child or uninterested commoner that flying critter is simply "a
> birdie". For those in the know exactly the same entity is a "Falco
> peregrinus".
> Even if simply calling it "birdie" or perhaps "falcon" would be
> easier, more "user friendly" more "un
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> [...]
> And we still have many figures in both GB and GiB which are neither of
> the two!
okay ... reading on ...
> [...]
> I see no problem with this "1TB" quote being approximate. It's
> rounded anyway.
So you don't care if it is
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:06 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:01 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
>
> > 1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no
> > less.
> >
> No it doesn't.
>
> The meaning of 1 TB depends on the context, and has always done so
After wasting too much time reading this thread, I think the bike shed
should be yellow this time.
And for something at least slightly useful:
This is not something Ubuntu should do, upstreams should do this. So if
anyone really cares about this, poke our upstreams instead of rambling
on about whe
As I see it there are two ways of resolving the difference between KiB
and KB.
* Use Rosetta to update the text and fix the output so that it now
reads KiB. This would be relatively simple to do, but not actually
helpful longer term.
* Fix the source code that calculates KB by
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 22:29 +0200, Dennis Kaarsemaker wrote:
> After wasting too much time reading this thread, I think the bike shed
> should be yellow this time.
I'd like to have it red, please.
> And for something at least slightly useful:
> This is not something Ubuntu should do, upstreams sho
On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 15:01 +0100, Alex Jones wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-06-13 at 14:29 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
> > Without the binary unit to consider, when we quote a drive as 1TB, we
> > know that it has *at least* 1,000,000,000,000 bytes available.
> > Depending on the drive, it may have a
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 00:35 +0200, Christof Krüger wrote:
> I agree that this is the way to go. However, I think the OP wanted to
> suggest to have something like an official policy so that
> changes/patches are also created by ubuntu and eventually proposed
> upstream.
> But I guess there will be
Ivan Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2007, Alex Jones wrote:
> > 1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more
> > and no less. If they want to actually put 1.024 TB on the disk
> > then they can say 1 TB (approx.) like any other industry
> > (detergent, bacon
On Thu, 2007-06-14 at 09:03 +1000, James "Doc" Livingston wrote:
> > 1 TB is not rounded. It means precisely 1 × 10^12 bytes, no more and no
> > less. If they want to actually put 1.024 TB on the disk then they can
> > say 1 TB (approx.) like any other industry (detergent, bacon, etc.).
>
> How ma
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