Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-04-03 Thread Przemysław Kulczycki
There is also a spec about cleaning up the menus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MenusRevisited2 -- ## Przemysław Kulczycki <<>> Azrael Nightwalker ## # jabber: azrael[na]jabster.pl | tlen: azrael29a # ### www: http://reksio.ftj.agh.edu.pl/~azrael/ ### signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signa

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-04-03 Thread Matthew East
On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:20 AM, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Op maandag 31-03-2008 om 09:05 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George > Farris: > > > The best example lately is and I suppose it was a technical reason and > > so maybe not avoidable because of gvfs is: moving the "Removable

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-04-01 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 31-03-2008 om 09:05 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef George Farris: > The best example lately is and I suppose it was a technical reason and > so maybe not avoidable because of gvfs is: moving the "Removable > drives and Media" from the preferences. That was really a horrible > move. Ther

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-04-01 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/31, Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The expression "System" is not the only, nor the main problem: adding a > submenu when you only have 7 of them is a major change in Applications. My point exactly. > categories of programs. And "Tools" already exists, if you don't go this > way: it's cal

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Milan
Sebastien Bacher wrote: > We will likely move some other things back there if we continue to use > the category. The comments there are interesting though. Why do you > think it's an issue? Do you find confusing to have the category unmasked > and containing only one item if you install vmware for

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread George Farris
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 12:48 +0200, Milan wrote: > In Hardy, all applications that don't really manage system-wide or user > settings were moved from System->Preferences and ->Administration to > Applications->System Tools. > > This is a good idea as a general rule since previously both > configura

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-03-31 at 16:25 +0200, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le lundi 31 mars 2008 à 12:48 +0200, Milan a écrit : > > In Hardy, all applications that don't really manage system-wide or user > > settings were moved from System->Preferences and ->Administration to > > Applications->System Tools. > >

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/31, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > using it. We used to do changes to not have it on the default > installation but the system menus have lot of items and the category is > quickly unmasked when installing something using it anyway Having it not used in the default installation

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le lundi 31 mars 2008 à 12:48 +0200, Milan a écrit : > In Hardy, all applications that don't really manage system-wide or user > settings were moved from System->Preferences and ->Administration to > Applications->System Tools. The change has been decided in a recent desktop team meeting on IRC. T

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/3/31, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > A better solution in my opinion would be to move the > Applications -> System Tools submenu to a System -> Tools submenu. I agree that the current setup is very poor, for the reasons already presented. If the System -> Tools is unfeasible at this p

Re: Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Matthew East
On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Milan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In Hardy, all applications that don't really manage system-wide or user > settings were moved from System->Preferences and ->Administration to > Applications->System Tools. > > This is a good idea as a general rule since previousl

Unneeded System Tools menu

2008-03-31 Thread Milan
In Hardy, all applications that don't really manage system-wide or user settings were moved from System->Preferences and ->Administration to Applications->System Tools. This is a good idea as a general rule since previously both configuration menus were bloated by numerous tools. But in the defaul