Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-24 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
Olá George e a todos. On Thursday 19 March 2009 15:04:55 George Farris wrote: > You know what would be very cool for new users. Once they have a > package installed and decide they don't want it anymore, they could > right click on the application menu item and see "Uninstall program". > This wou

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Martin Owens
> It is true that some menu items in Ubuntu have context menus (another > example is Firefox's Bookmarks menu), but that doesn't necessarily mean > it's a good idea. Firefox bookmarks are a great comparison, because the bookmarks menu isn't a context menu, it's a list menu. It's a good idea to h

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Andrew Barbaccia
> > Anyway, what if the user wants to remove the Freecel game, but want to > keep the others? That's almost impossible, cause they belong to a single > package. > Possibly the immediate fix is to allow users to simply remove the item from the menu and not remove the package from the system? -- Ub

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Sex, 2009-03-20 às 13:44 +0100, Vincenzo Ciancia escreveu: > On 19/03/2009 Jonh Wendell wrote: > > Why can't the user go to add/remove programs to uninstall them if > > [s]he > > went there to install in the first place? > > An argument can go as follows: when you look for something that you

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 20/03/2009 Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > > > An argument can go as follows: when you look for something that you > don't have in the menus, you'll naturally select the voice that says > "add/remove", as the application is not yet in the menu. It is > similar to creating a new file in a folder.

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 19/03/2009 Andrew Barbaccia wrote: > I agree. Two places to accomplish the same thing seems confusing. > Then we should either remove the trashcan or the corresponding right-click menu entry :) Vincenzo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify sett

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 19/03/2009 Jonh Wendell wrote: > Why can't the user go to add/remove programs to uninstall them if > [s]he > went there to install in the first place? An argument can go as follows: when you look for something that you don't have in the menus, you'll naturally select the voice that says "add

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Oli Warner
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:11 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > It is true that some menu items in Ubuntu have context menus (another > example is Firefox's Bookmarks menu), but that doesn't necessarily mean > it's a good idea. > > Most menu items do the same thing when you right-click on them as w

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Remco wrote on 20/03/09 00:13: > > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Markus Hitter wrote: >> >>> -- there *are* context menu's on almost everything else in Ubuntu >> >> Yes, almost everything. Everything exept menus them selfs. > > That's not true

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Oli Warner
2009/3/19 Andrew Barbaccia > We also have to consider what happens if we remove something like > "gnome-terminal" which in case will remove "gnome-desktop" and then cause > things to not get updated in the future... > That's true. Couple of suggestions there: 1. Remote the whole removing pr

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thursday 19 March 2009 10:46:11 pm Martin Owens wrote: > Hi Markus, > > I once was in a Lighting Talk which was describing some interface > research related to context. It was fascinating because it showed the > difference between nouns (applications) and verbs (run, delete, > uninstall) > > O

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Markus, I once was in a Lighting Talk which was describing some interface research related to context. It was fascinating because it showed the difference between nouns (applications) and verbs (run, delete, uninstall) On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 00:35 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > > Right-click men

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Remco
On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 12:35 AM, Markus Hitter wrote: >> -- there *are* context menu's on almost everything else in Ubuntu > > Yes, almost everything. Everything exept menus them selfs. That's not true. The menu has a context menu with the following options: Add this launcher to panel Add this

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 19.03.2009 um 22:08 schrieb Oli Warner: > I don't see how adding context menus to the menu items could > confuse anybody Right-click menus inside a left-click menu? I can't imagine any user interface guideline agrees here. Many people use menus with a single click (mouse down - drag to

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Andrew Barbaccia
> > *When I load up the Application menu, I want to run a particular > application*. I'm trying to get things done. Interrupting that process to > search for a package in a package manager, gets nothing accomplished. But if > I could right click and deal with 90% of the process *from the menu*, my

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Oli Warner
2009/3/19 Andrew Barbaccia > I agree. Two places to accomplish the same thing seems confusing. That's like saying files shouldn't have context menus because you can do [nearly] everything there by left-clicking in some form. Don't take this personally, but it's a poorly thought out response. T

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Mike Jones
My explanation would honestly be because the add-remove dialog is a pain to use if I'm kind of in the middle of something else and I realize that I really would prefer not to have application "x" sitting on my system. The space required to store it isn't really what bothers me. My smallest drive i

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Andrew Barbaccia
I agree. Two places to accomplish the same thing seems confusing. On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Jonh Wendell wrote: > Em Qui, 2009-03-19 às 19:41 +0100, Vincenzo Ciancia escreveu: > > On 19/03/2009 Joao Pinto wrote: > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > Mosf of the times we realize the bunch of applica

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Jonh Wendell
Em Qui, 2009-03-19 às 19:41 +0100, Vincenzo Ciancia escreveu: > On 19/03/2009 Joao Pinto wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > Mosf of the times we realize the bunch of applications that we no > > longer use/need when we search on the menu. > > I think linuxmint already has this so it's just a matter of sh

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 19/03/2009 Joao Pinto wrote: > > +1 > > Mosf of the times we realize the bunch of applications that we no > longer use/need when we search on the menu. I think linuxmint already has this so it's just a matter of shameless free-software-blessed copying? Vincenzo -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss ma

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Joao Pinto
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 3:04 PM, George Farris wrote: > Hi all, > > You know what would be very cool for new users. Once they have a > package installed and decide they don't want it anymore, they could > right click on the application menu item and see "Uninstall program". > This would immediate

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Oli Warner
A general "edit mode" would be great because Alacarte is a pain to use. I'm imagining right clicking the menu I want to edit, clicking edit and then being able to drag things around, or right click items to do further things (hide an item, create further levels, uninstall its package, etc)... With

Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread George Farris
Hi all, You know what would be very cool for new users. Once they have a package installed and decide they don't want it anymore, they could right click on the application menu item and see "Uninstall program". This would immediately remove the package, appropriate dialogs and authorizations woul