On 12/03/2009 Matthew East wrote:
> it's slightly odd to expect them to go to the right hand side to log
> out or shutdown
This comes from older releases where we had two important things in the
four corners: menus, show desktop, trash and power off button. I always
loved the power button in its
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Mat Tomaszewski
wrote:
> I've got my part in the decision to remove the icons from the fusa
> applet and I can see why it is controversial. I think part of that comes
> from the fact that almost all other menus use icons, and there seems to
> be lack of consis
I agree with both the previous mails:
- more space between options
- visual feedback to help choosing
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On Friday 06 March 2009 8:48:25 am Martin Soto wrote:
> Indeed it happened
> to me already a few times that I was in a hurry and selected the wrong
> option. This can be quite bad, specially given the current broken state
> of the GNOME session manager.
I know someone else that always hits "hibern
Martin Soto wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 11:29 +, Mat Tomaszewski wrote:
>
>> Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
>>
>>> quote from the blog:
>>> "A couple of people have said that the menu looks “sparse” or “bare”
>>>
> ...
>
>> I've got my part in the decision to remove the icons from t
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 11:29 +, Mat Tomaszewski wrote:
> Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> > quote from the blog:
> > "A couple of people have said that the menu looks “sparse” or “bare”
...
> The "less is more" philosophy is neither new, nor obsolete. I personally
> believe that "less" and "more" can co
Thanks for your answer Mat.
Well, maybe if every menu item in the applet has an icon, it could
really look cluttered...
Maybe it would look better (and less cluttered) to not list all the
quit options there, but just display the classical 2 options (Quit and
Log Out) and then present the 2 beautif
Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> quote from the blog:
> "A couple of people have said that the menu looks “sparse” or “bare”
> but I think it sets the right direction and we’ll be continuing with
> this approach as we touch other parts of the system."
>
> OMG: he wants to remove icons from everywere
>
>
> Don't use OMG and !!! on any devel list, it looks just like it sounds
> - childish :)
Yes, I just wanted it to sound like a joke
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2009/3/6 Nicolò Chieffo :
> quote from the blog:
> "A couple of people have said that the menu looks “sparse” or “bare”
> but I think it sets the right direction and we’ll be continuing with
> this approach as we touch other parts of the system."
>
> OMG: he wants to remove icons from everywere
quote from the blog:
"A couple of people have said that the menu looks “sparse” or “bare”
but I think it sets the right direction and we’ll be continuing with
this approach as we touch other parts of the system."
OMG: he wants to remove icons from everywere
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Ohhh boy, third post in a row, should be in spammer blacklist soon... :)
Anyway, I found exact argument Mark made about removal of icons:
"We decided not to put icons into the menu for each of the different
statuses. Our design ethic is to aim for cleaner, less cluttered
layouts with fewer icons a
By the way, there is Mark's blog entry about this as reference on why
such decision was made:
http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/233
Cheers,
Peter.
2009/3/6 Peteris Krisjanis :
> There are two bug reports for this:
> 1) For removing icons in Intrepid beta cycle
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad
There are two bug reports for this:
1) For removing icons in Intrepid beta cycle
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/301309
2) For overal usability of FUSA in Jaunty
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/291846
I suggest
No the icons were removed. Initially there were icons, but mark (or
someone else) decided to remove them
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A quick look at the code reveals that the menu items added to the
applet are of the type GtkImageMenuItem. The reason stock items are
not being used is probably because the labels in stock menu items do
not contain '...'.
It is quite possible that the icons were left out by mistake.
I think it is
> wow, assuming that "IM Statuse here" will likely also say "(Available)"
> that acutally /triplicates/ (does such a word exist ? :) ) the display
> of the status ...
That is a text field, so you can edit the text. I don't know what is
its feature, but maybe it is half done
> it should probably m
Personally I also strongly second to have icons in applet menu,
because yes, turning computer off, putting into sleep, etc. are motor
actions for body and eyes and it is very hard for me to stop every
time I open that menu and read actual labels - and I am geek who pays
attention to all little deta
hi,
Am Freitag, den 06.03.2009, 11:06 +0100 schrieb Nicolò Chieffo:
> Have a look at the fedora gdm-user-switch-applet and tell me which is
> the most elegant & usable
wow, assuming that "IM Statuse here" will likely also say "(Available)"
that acutally /triplicates/ (does such a word exist ? :) )
Have a look at the fedora gdm-user-switch-applet and tell me which is
the most elegant & usable
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Op donderdag 05-03-2009 om 17:13 uur [tijdzone +], schreef Matthew
Paul Thomas:
> Mark Shuttleworth designed that menu, and his POV is that it is more
> elegant without icons.
Elegance is not the same as usability...
Many people use icons as "orientation landmarks" and never read the menu
tex
Thank you very much!
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Nicolò Chieffo [2009-03-05 18:20 +0100]:
> Is there a way to get the old menu for shutdown?
Remove the fusa applet.
Martin
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> Mark Shuttleworth designed that menu, and his POV is that it is more
> elegant without icons.
>
> When you are signed in to Empathy or Pidgin, the menu does use icons for
> IM statuses.
I hope he won't decide to remove the icons from others menus too...
Is there a way to get the old menu for sh
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Nicolò Chieffo wrote on 05/03/09 09:48:
>
> I'd like to start a new (maybe already discussed, if so I'm sorry)
> discussion about the fast-user-switch-applet in Jaunty.
>
> Why it's the only menu which does not have icons in gnome??? *every*
> other
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:18 PM, Nicolò Chieffo wrote:
> I'd like to start a new (maybe already discussed, if so I'm sorry)
> discussion about the fast-user-switch-applet in Jaunty.
>
> Why it's the only menu which does not have icons in gnome??? *every*
> other applet has icons (volume, clock, net
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