Hi Kevin,
Am Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:55:40 -0700
schrieb Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 12:03 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > I think you misunderstand my point.
>
> No I got it. And I think that that thinking is wrong and dangerous to
> Linux in general, and Ubuntu i
On Thursday 06 December 2007 16:58, Richard A. Johnson wrote:
> Scott, I do have a problem with the document you linked to about asking
> smart questions. Most of the answers I have seen in there are stupid
> answers or stupid solutions. I was always raised with the idea that there
> isn't a such
RESENDING MY ORIGINAL POST TO THE LIST. This way Kevin doesn't blasted because
of my comments :)
On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kevin Fries wrote:
[...]
| If I don't get my steak the way I ordered it. I buy my steak from
| elsewhere. Ubuntu with no users, is not anything but an exercise in
| ego
On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kevin Fries wrote:
| This was sent to me personally, and it has comments directed to others
| in the group... Therefore, I assume it was meant for the group at large.
Thanks Kevin, sorry about that. I must have hit the wrong reply button.
--
Richard A. Johnson
[EMAI
Sarah Hobbs wrote the following on 06.12.2007 12:47
> According to [2], the point of contact for users to get in touch with
> developers is ubuntu-devel-discuss.
> That being said, there are a number of developers who choose not to read
> this list, for various reasons.
one contradict th
; From: Richard A. Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Appropriateness of posts to this list (Was Re: evince
> crash)
> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:54:45 -0600
>
> On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kevin Fries wrote:
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ubject: Re: Appropriateness of posts to this list (Was Re: evince
crash)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:54:45 -0600
On Thursday 06 December 2007, Kevin Fries wrote:
[...]
| If I don't get my steak the way I ordered it. I buy my steak from
| elsewhere. Ubuntu with no users, is not anything but an
On Thu, Dec 06, 2007 at 11:55:40AM -0700, Kevin Fries wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 12:03 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > I think you misunderstand my point.
>
> No I got it. And I think that that thinking is wrong and dangerous to
> Linux in general, and Ubuntu in specific.
Kevin - howdy!
There are some really strong arguments being put forth in this thread. I
think I can understand how all the participates feel.
I think there is a developer-user disconnect and I tried to touch on
this in my long winded "best foot forward" thread. That being said I
have contributed absolutely no
Kevin Fries wrote:
> You allow the customers wishes to be the only real metric because you
> place Ubuntu and Linux's needs before your own. Otherwise, are you
> really helping?
*IF* I were paid I would agree. What it comes down to with many of us is
we find a niche we care about and work on that
On Thu, 2007-12-06 at 12:03 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> I think you misunderstand my point.
No I got it. And I think that that thinking is wrong and dangerous to
Linux in general, and Ubuntu in specific.
> My concern is the idea that "because a user said they want it" is a meaninful
> me
On Thursday 06 December 2007 11:36, Kevin Fries wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 22:13 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > For those of us who are volunteers (most of us), the compromise is
> > someone has to convince me it's worth my time to bother. So I'd say
> > the other way around. The users who
On Wed, 2007-12-05 at 22:13 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> For those of us who are volunteers (most of us), the compromise is
> someone has to convince me it's worth my time to bother. So I'd say
> the other way around. The users who want volunteers to actually do
> free work for them need to be
Blaise Alleyne wrote:
> True, but there's the additional question - is this the appropriate
> place for that sort of discussion? In other words, sure, the developers
> need a place to discuss things free from the mob, but the mob also
> needs to be able to participate and voice their concerns/appro
Onno Benschop wrote:
> On 04/12/07 01:28, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
>
>> I think allowing the developers of the distribution, those who have a
>> real stake in the success of the software in its entirety, to decide
>> where to focus their efforts is superior to allowing the mob to decide
>> wha
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 20:59, Andrew Pollock wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2007 8:28 AM, Christofer C. Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > On Dec 2, 2007 3:10 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > > I agree that :
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 05:25:56 Matthew Pa
On 04/12/07 01:28, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> I think allowing the developers of the distribution, those who have a
> real stake in the success of the software in its entirety, to decide
> where to focus their efforts is superior to allowing the mob to decide
> what's important. I also think that
On Dec 3, 2007 8:28 AM, Christofer C. Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Dec 2, 2007 3:10 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I agree that :
> > On Tuesday 23 October 2007 05:25:56 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> > > This causes people to make useless comments of the form "Th
On Dec 2, 2007 3:10 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I agree that :
> On Tuesday 23 October 2007 05:25:56 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> > This causes people to make useless comments of the form "This bug has X
> > votes, why is it only Medium importance!", which causes more e-m
I agree that :
On Tuesday 23 October 2007 05:25:56 Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
> This causes people to make useless comments of the form "This bug has X
> votes, why is it only Medium importance!", which causes more e-mail
> notifications and slows down the developers further.
but still this is a
On Oct 22, 2007, at 1:05 PM, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
...
What we need is a DIGG alike system for LP.
Either by counting the number of subscribers/comments, thumbs up/down
(digg alike), or an hybrid way of all this.
What do you guys think?
...
For a variety of reasons, how many votes a bu
On 10/21/07, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What we need is a DIGG alike system for LP.
> Either by counting the number of subscribers/comments, thumbs up/down (digg
> alike), or an hybrid way of all this.
> What do you guys think?
A digg thumb up for that idea :)
--
Nicol
On Tuesday 09 October 2007 05:28:20 Todd Deshane wrote:
> On 10/8/07, Aaron Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > It seems to me that if users, developers and testers that are
> > > following this list care about a particular issue or bug they can
> > > raise it here. If it generates no discu
On 10/9/07, Sebastien Bacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Le mardi 09 octobre 2007 à 14:29 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia a écrit :
>
> > windows or osx, _they_ will come to me and say it sucks. And, damn, they
> > will be right. If you can't print a pdf with the default settings of the
> > distribution
Le mardi 09 octobre 2007 à 14:29 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia a écrit :
> windows or osx, _they_ will come to me and say it sucks. And, damn, they
> will be right. If you can't print a pdf with the default settings of the
> distribution, how can you propose ubuntu in a scientific environment? I
Maybe
On 09/10/2007 Aaron Whitehouse wrote:
> Most people tend to see their bugs as major. I don't mean to lessen
> the frustration of your plight, but not being able to view a pdf on a
> password restricted site isn't the most major bug that I have seen
> filed against Gutsy.
I'm seriously tired of thi
On 10/8/07, Aaron Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It seems to me that if users, developers and testers that are
> > following this list care about a particular issue or bug they can
> > raise it here. If it generates no discussion and others simply ignore,
> > then it is probably not a bi
> It seems to me that if users, developers and testers that are
> following this list care about a particular issue or bug they can
> raise it here. If it generates no discussion and others simply ignore,
> then it is probably not a big issue.
I see your point. The same rationale, however, would s
Hi All,
On 10/8/07, Aaron Whitehouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think crashes are not a good sign, so I was hoping to raise some
> > awareness of this problem.
>
> Quite a few people have been "raising awareness" about bugs that they
> have filed. I too have filed some seriously nasty bugs t
> I think crashes are not a good sign, so I was hoping to raise some
> awareness of this problem.
Quite a few people have been "raising awareness" about bugs that they
have filed. I too have filed some seriously nasty bugs that make Gutsy
close to unusable for me (mostly to do with compiz and the
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