Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-10 Thread John Carr
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since F-Spot is installed by default Mono is now part of the base > install. So outside of all the debate around Mono, have we considered > installing Banshee as the default media player in Intrepid now that > Banshee 1.0

Re: A better media player (was Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid)

2008-06-09 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, 2008-06-09 at 18:11 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > What if, for example, I really like > 60 Second Science and want those clips randomly placed in between my > music? --Can't do, unless I manually drag and drop from Podcasts to > Music Library. This is a similar foolishness to expecting the

A better media player (was Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid)

2008-06-09 Thread Dylan McCall
> At UDS, we actually looked hard at the experience of Music players and > playing - and both Banshee and Rhythmbox fared very badly, and we were > quite rude about both of them ;) > > The Banshee authors got a list via Jorge Castro, and Rhythmbox authors > will be getting lots of bugs filed for t

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 09-06-2008 om 20:38 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Scott James Remnant: > At UDS, we actually looked hard at the experience of Music players and > playing - and both Banshee and Rhythmbox fared very badly, and we were > quite rude about both of them ;) Personally, I use Quod Libet for mo

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Darren Albers
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 3:38 PM, Scott James Remnant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > >> There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: >> 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) >> 2) Lar

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: > 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) > 2) Large support for reading and writing from various media players. > 3) Integration with

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Montag, den 09.06.2008, 21:47 +0300 schrieb Peteris Krisjanis: > Is there any interest in creating that kind of "LSB for desktop > features" - or is there already something like this? As far as I see, > it would help desktop testing a lot and would help with priorities in > bug fixing. What abo

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
And there goes another reason why such proposals and suggestions should be replaced with nice, cute, understandable feature sheet aka HIG or LSB. People don't like removed features and it should be taken into account. And it is better to fix application than propose new replacement. And even if you

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2008/6/9 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I was a Banshee user for about 9 months or so. That ended a year ago. > Unless it's changed, Banshee only recognizes songs you have imported. It > does not monitor directories for new songs, and especially not recursively. Yep, and for this very

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Montag, den 09.06.2008, 11:05 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: > Well you were correct it does work, but I had to remove all the > content on the iPOD and then add it again for it to work. It is odd > since gtkpod worked fine. I guess there was something wrong with the > local database on the iP

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Darren Albers
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >> I have never been able to get Rythmbox to update my iPod nor my wifes. > > Then please file a bug. > >> The Rhythmbox webpage only says it can read from iPods and oth

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Jeffrey Katz
My vote goes to either Rhythmbox or Amarok. I have over 100,000 songs. Neither Exaile or Banshee seem to finish indexing that many. Printed on 100-percent recycled electrons. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://li

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-09 Thread Nergar
I don't think rhythmbox needs to be changed, AFAIK its Ipod support comes from libpod, witch is the same for gtkpod, amarok and exaile. It does an awesome work at playing music and also works great if you need to manage your library. It would be nice to change it for amarok but all the kde dependen

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Luke L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Full disclosure: I only tried Banshee once, briefly, and it was buggy > as Hell. Memory aside, Exaile should be looked at. I don't know about > its iPod support, though. I was a Banshee user for about 9 months or so. That end

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Luke L
I was going to suggest Exaile, but at the moment it has a memory leak that gets worse as it plays more music (it was taking up 800 MB!). I know that I do not like Rhythmbox's layout or playlist functionality. I like Amarok better than RB, but Ama doesn't detect my media keys on my laptop like RB do

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread macoafi
On 6/8/08, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >>> There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over >>> Rhythmbox: >>> 1) Complete iPod support (

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Darren Albers
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >> I have never been able to get Rythmbox to update my iPod nor my wifes. > > Then please file a bug. > >> The Rhythmbox webpage only says it can read from iPods and oth

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > I have never been able to get Rythmbox to update my iPod nor my wifes. Then please file a bug. > The Rhythmbox webpage only says it can read from iPods and other > portable devices nothing about writing. From http://www.gnome.org/projects

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Darren Albers
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >> There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: >> 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) > > No. Rhythmbox

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Chandru
No Banshee by default please. Apart from Mono dependencies, its memory consumption is much higher than Rhythmbox and Audio players are always run in the background when the user is actually doing some other work on the system. Wasting RAM on media player is not a good idea. Apart from that, RB i

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: > 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) No. Rhythmbox can write to iPods just fine. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: > Since F-Spot is installed by default Mono is now part of the base > install. So outside of all the debate around Mono, have we considered > installing Banshee as the default media player in Intrepid now that > Banshee 1.0 is released

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 15:02 -0400 schrieb Evan: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > 5) Built-in support for last.fm > > There is a rhythmbox plugin for this included in the default Hardy > install. If rhythmbox is kept, perhaps there should

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Caroline Ford
2008/6/8 Sebastian Breier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: >> If we use Banshee we can get rid of Sound Juicer and gain iPod support >> out of the box. If we use Banshee we can say to people: "Yes, your >> iPod or other digital music player wil

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Evan
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5) Built-in support for last.fm There is a rhythmbox plugin for this included in the default Hardy install. If rhythmbox is kept, perhaps there should be a look at enabling it by default. Evan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss ma

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: > If we use Banshee we can get rid of Sound Juicer and gain iPod support > out of the box. If we use Banshee we can say to people: "Yes, your > iPod or other digital music player will work out of the box. Just > plug it in and go."