Op maandag 18-05-2009 om 20:22 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef John Moser:
> The bigger concern here is why are we bothering with systems like i586
> that will probably have around 64MB of RAM, when you need 192MB just
> to install?
AMD Geode is i586 AFAIK?
Also, in the past I've installed a full G
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:00 PM, John McCabe-Dansted wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Daniel J Blueman
> wrote:
>> I was trying to raise a more general point about the minimum spec
>> across the board, including the embedded and old-server hardware.
>>
>> I challenge anyone to find some
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Daniel J Blueman
wrote:
> I was trying to raise a more general point about the minimum spec
> across the board, including the embedded and old-server hardware.
>
> I challenge anyone to find someone using Ubuntu 8.10/9.04 on a
> processor which doesn't support the
Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 May 2009 9:35:28 pm Christopher Chan wrote:
>
>> Pentium the Original. Pentium II, III are all based on the Pentium Pro
>> (i686) and they have a different architecture than Pentium the Original.
>> Pentium II is basically the Pentium Pro + MMX. Pentium
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 9:35:28 pm Christopher Chan wrote:
> Pentium the Original. Pentium II, III are all based on the Pentium Pro
> (i686) and they have a different architecture than Pentium the Original.
> Pentium II is basically the Pentium Pro + MMX. Pentium 4 and M use the
> Netburst archit
Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> I have no idea how Christopher sent his message, but KMail claims
> there's nothing to quote O_o
>
:-D I did not hit reply all and then sent it to sounder by mistake. Then
I forwarded that back here. My apologies.
> Anyway...
> He said, "i586 binaries should be only
I have no idea how Christopher sent his message, but KMail claims
there's nothing to quote O_o
Anyway...
He said, "i586 binaries should be only installed on actual Pentium
computers."
Does that mean Pentium The Original, or does it include Pentium 2, 3, 4
and M?
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> I challenge anyone to find someone using Ubuntu 8.10/9.04 on a
> processor which doesn't support the full i586 instruction set (eg
> i386/i486 or something with incomplete i586 support).
>
i586 binaries should be only installed on actual Pentium computers.
Every other
Daniel J Blueman wrote:
> All older VIA processors, AMD Geode procs and so on support the full
> i586 instruction set, which including MMX instructions and registers,
> which itself can provide a good win.
>
Geodes have partial implementation, particularly they only handle a few
PREFETCH instr
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 1:21 AM, John Moser wrote:
> On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Daniel J Blueman
> wrote:
[snip]
>
> Even if we split up Ubuntu in i486 and i686, i686 gets its most major
> gains from the CMOV instruction family-- a conditional MOV instruction
> that acts as a branch-and-mov
2009/5/19 Alexandre Strube :
>> Even though I'm performance freak I will be staying on my 32bit
>> dual-core laptop for quite a while still.
>>
>> (I have access to Sparc 64bit grid ;-) to run my simulations on)
>
> Hello Dima,
> I guess the issue here was deprecating the -386 in favor of taking ad
2009/5/19 Markus Hitter :
>
> Am 19.05.2009 um 01:24 schrieb Daniel J Blueman:
>
>> A number of benchmarks show a significant performance loss on 32bit
>> ubuntu over 64bit [...]
>> Just how much user experience do we trade away for i386/i486 legacy
>> compatibility these days?
>
> IMHO, you draw a
Am 19.05.2009 um 01:24 schrieb Daniel J Blueman:
> A number of benchmarks show a significant performance loss on 32bit
> ubuntu over 64bit [...]
> Just how much user experience do we trade away for i386/i486 legacy
> compatibility these days?
IMHO, you draw an odd conclusion here. You recognize
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 7:24 PM, Daniel J Blueman
wrote:
> A number of benchmarks show a significant performance loss on 32bit
> ubuntu over 64bit [1], on the same hardware. This is partially due to
> restrictions on the instruction set and partially due to worse
> instruction scheduling (others r
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