Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-17 Thread Clint Byrum
Excerpts from Clint Byrum's message of Tue Feb 07 01:50:18 -0800 2012: > Many of us in the Free and Open Source software community have seen a > trend regarding Oracle's stewardship of Open source software that it > inherited when it purchased Sun. In particular there were two fairly > large public

Re: [debian-mysql] [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-16 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
Great stuff, What ever the choice, even if it is to keep MySQL alone, lets remember MySQL will not be dropped ! Any one would still be able to install the Oracle GA if they wanted to (from some repository, probably partner, or even main) If indeed there is a replacement, I can only talk about wha

Re: [debian-mysql] [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-16 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 16 Feb 2012, at 17:24, Henrik Ingo wrote: > Clearly I was unclear in my previous email. The 2 year support is not > true for any of the alternatives. MySQL gives 5 years (and more for > customers that pay), Percona trails MySQL so they also end up doing 5 > years (and more for paying custo

Re: [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-15 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 16 Feb 2012, at 07:57, Henrik Ingo wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Fabio T. Leitao > wrote: >> For those who have not followed this up closely, a little history. >> >> Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of IS >> MySQL, forked and re-branded.

Re: [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-15 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 15 Feb 2012, at 00:49, Marc Deslauriers wrote: > We are unable to determine what the recent MySQL security fixes are due > to lack of details, and unclear commit messages. Based on our analysis of commits and bugs, we believe the CPU (critical patch update) that Oracle released was actua

Re: [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-15 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 14 Feb 2012, at 20:28, Fabio T. Leitao wrote: > Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of IS > MySQL, forked and re-branded. I like to say that it is MySQL, branched and re-branded with additional features. It is not a fork. We rebase with MySQL on a regu

Re: [Maria-discuss] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-15 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 14 Feb 2012, at 00:11, Robbie Williamson wrote: > One thing to note, the primary motivator for this proposal isn't about > moving to a more "open source friendly" application. We have genuine > security concerns/issues with how MySQL handles and publishes their > security updates. We can

Re: [debian-mysql] MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-15 Thread Colin Charles
Hi! On 13 Feb 2012, at 15:20, Eddie Bachle wrote: > As Linux gains more public recognition, more and more Windows-only > organizations will consider using it as an alternative, especially for their > web servers. This is especially true because of the fact that each of the > necessarily main

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-14 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
>From MariaDB FAQ page: http://kb.askmonty.org/en/why-is-the-project-called-mariadb "The 'MySQL' name is trademarked by Oracle, and they have chosen to keep that trademark to themselves. The name MySQL (just like the MyISAM storage engine) comes from Monty's first daughter "My". MariaDB continues

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-14 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
For those who have not followed this up closely, a little history. Remember that MariaDB is not just "compatible" with MySQL, but it kind of IS MySQL, forked and re-branded. In 2009, even before Oracle has purchased Sun, Monty Widenius (one of the original creators of MySQL and architects) has le

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-13 Thread Robbie Williamson
On 02/13/2012 01:20 AM, Eddie Bachle wrote: > I would like to say we would still switch, or still heavily consider it > for the grains that could be made by using Ubuntu, however > realistically, the lack of native MySQL in any OS would be a huge mark > against it. FTR, we would not *drop* MySQL

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-12 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
The first time I have attempted this was in the previous release of Ubuntu, o I am not totally sure of what version number was available. At least two of the most recent trys were with 11.10 oneiric... the servers had mysql 5.1.58-1ubuntu1 and now are running mariadb 5.2.10-mariadb107~oneiric I h

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-11 Thread Fabio T. Leitao
I have already moved some of my servers to mariadb, with minor to none downtime during the process, but I have also kept some of them stuck with mysql just because of the "official" support (well, it is the elected one in main repository after all) I have also done some bench marking and have also

Re: MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-08 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/2/7 Clint Byrum : > So what should we, the Debian and Ubuntu MySQL maintainers and users, > do about this? This is really more for the heavy users to answer, but I haven't seen any indication that MariaDB wouldn't be an LTS worthy replacement. It has the majority of former MySQL core develope

MySQL's future in Debian and Ubuntu

2012-02-07 Thread Clint Byrum
Many of us in the Free and Open Source software community have seen a trend regarding Oracle's stewardship of Open source software that it inherited when it purchased Sun. In particular there were two fairly large public project blow ups that resulted in OpenOffice splintering, and the Hudson commu