Re: On Lists and Iterables

2017-12-16 Thread Neal McBurnett
"b"], ["c","d"]))) $ python3 porting_example.py [('a', 'c'), ('b', 'd')] See docs at http://python3porting.com/2to3.html Porting Python 2 Code to Python 3 — Python 3.6.1rc1 documentation https://docs.python.org/3/howto/pyporting.ht

Re: Software installation on modern Ubuntu

2017-08-27 Thread Neal McBurnett
* commands into one unified command, auto-invokes sudo when necessary, and much more. Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 10:15:46PM +, Matt Wheeler wrote: > On Sat, 26 Aug 2017, 18:21 Colin Law wrote: > > OK, I see where

Re: the right to make a difference

2016-06-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
more appropriate venues for the conversation. Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 03:33:59PM +0100, Sam Bull wrote: > On Thu, 2016-06-02 at 14:35 +0200, Xen wrote: > > The intention of the GPL is not really relevant. > > >

Re: GRsecurity is preventing others from redistributing source code

2016-06-01 Thread Neal McBurnett
open up GRsecurity patches could buy commercial support: https://grsecurity.net/business_support.php Elsewhere it has been said that support cost $200, but perhaps that has changed. Thanks for noting this, and I hope we find someone who can actually make this happen, or file a legal case.

Re: Updater can't update kernel due to disk space

2015-01-15 Thread Neal McBurnett
d-line tool". I thought by this part > of the discussion it had became clear that it is not a > sensible solution (except maybe if auto-scheduled).  +1 Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: Why Ubuntu doesn’t support certain form of shebang for Python?

2014-11-11 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 05:19:38PM -0500, Barry Warsaw wrote: > On Nov 11, 2014, at 11:48 AM, Neal McBurnett wrote: > > >I'm glad that python2 is in Debian and Ubuntu (do you know offhand which > >releases?). Which distros is it still not supported in? Are they likely to

Re: Why Ubuntu doesn’t support certain form of shebang for Python?

2014-11-11 Thread Neal McBurnett
h distros is it still not supported in? Are they likely to catch up? Do you see a path to a world where compliance with PEP 0394 is the right approach, making the transition to python3 easier? http://legacy.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/ Thanks, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett

Re: Pre-upgrade warnings and advice?

2014-06-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Fri, Jun 06, 2014 at 02:46:46PM +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Neal McBurnett wrote on 02/06/14 20:49: > > Is there anything in the official upgrade tools to remind users > > about use of ppas, non-repo packages

Re: Upgrade issues

2014-06-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 02:18:52PM -0700, Dale Amon wrote: > On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 01:59:23PM -0600, Neal McBurnett wrote: > > The appropriate way to deal with clear bugs is to report them in launchpad, > > along with the necessary details like steps to reproduce, kind of har

Re: Upgrade issues

2014-06-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 12:50:29PM -0700, Dale Amon wrote: > The big must fix items: > * Critical: lockups on lid closure ... > And note that you really do have at least one bug in the > backdrop and lock panel. I have thousands of aviation photos > in ~/Pictures and it cannot deal with it, o

Pre-upgrade warnings and advice?

2014-06-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
s or other organizations, etc. It would help a lot if it didn't spew out too much information, e.g. by combining warnings for a set of packages into an overall warning about a particular desktop or suite of related packages with similar upgrade issues. Do things like that exist? Cheers,

Re: Upgrade issues

2014-06-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
you should ask the supporters of those repos and tools about how to do a clean upgrade. Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listin

Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?

2013-04-09 Thread Neal McBurnett
s to retain all their superpowers without needless disruption. Specific bug reports related to those goals are welcomed. And lets all take a deep breath. In... Out... Ahhh... Thanks to all the volunteers and supporters that make Ubuntu possible! Neal McBurnett http

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-11 Thread Neal McBurnett
g to the Ubuntu Developer Summit, or digging in to the aspect of Ubuntu where you could have the best leverage. But this is not the place to address the concerns you have, at least in the way you're trying to frame them. Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ On Wed,

Re: No Cyber Cafe Software for Ubuntu yet...

2009-12-23 Thread Neal McBurnett
isturbing other customers. Good list! For what it's worth, I used Linux-based cyber cafe software (workstation and presumably server also) at a cyber cafe near the train station in Bansko Bulgaria in 2005. So there has been some demand/availability :) Neal McBurnett http://neal.

Re: Apache Maven to be removed from Karmic?

2009-10-16 Thread Neal McBurnett
of all the component upstream development projects. We can always use new testers, developers, and folks to get involved early in a release cycle to look out for issues like this. Thanks, Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-di

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-09 Thread Neal McBurnett
bers (like dividing file sizes by bandwidth units) to see how long something will take will get results that are off by larger and larger amounts as we move from kilobytes to terabytes. It is certainly an improvement to make these things make sense. We can argue about how to do it, who to work w

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
e an effect is to comment in the bug reports, or in the blueprint, both of which help to preserve important context. See also the Gnome bug discussions: storage units standard http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309850 g_format_size_for_display() should use correct IEC units http://bu

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-01 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:59:10AM +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > Neal McBurnett wrote: > > I agree. More details and discussion are at this ifconfig bug report, > > which came to the same conclusion: > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-too

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-06-01 Thread Neal McBurnett
. More details and discussion are at this ifconfig bug report, which came to the same conclusion: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-tools/+bug/240073 Neal McBurnett http://neal.mcburnett.org/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Neal McBurnett
tt is right - complicated trademark issues leave us with two options as described above. For those that want to see the discussion, most of it is pointed to in this long bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/269656 Rehashing it here won't be helpful - take it up directly with the

Re: Rejecting the Firefox EULA in Ubuntu

2008-09-17 Thread Neal McBurnett
trying to get agreement to use their anti-malware and anti-phishing web services, which is a different thing. Is there a better place to discuss the Ubuntu process and options with those working on it? The bug is not the right place, and those involved may not be subscribed to this list. Nea

Re: Firefox newly insists on showing an EULA

2008-09-15 Thread Neal McBurnett
tributors. But first I'd like to actually read the EULA, and I'm surprised no one has posted the text of it (as far as I have found) to this discussion or to the bug. Though the bug is so verbose now that I haven't managed to read all the way thru, I must admit - but I didn't se

Re: [ubuntu-web] feedback on new wiki theme

2008-09-09 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 09:34:49AM +0100, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Neal McBurnett wrote on 09/09/08 00:12: > >... > > It is common to focus on a fixed width design as "narrow", but for > > many users the big issue is that it is "fixed". On a wide page

Re: feedback on new wiki theme

2008-09-08 Thread Neal McBurnett
ign thwarts that plan. So as earlier posters have said, what is wrong with keeping the fluidity of the current design, letting the user choose how wide to make their browser window, and thus how long their lines of text should be? The rest of the design can match ubuntu.com, where graphics and othe

Re: feedback on new wiki theme

2008-09-05 Thread Neal McBurnett
ard. I think we > can condense it so that there isn't whitespace between the two lines. Yes - tighter would be my preference. Beyond that - I definitely appreciate attention to updating the theme. I like the smaller text. Thanks! Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/n

Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience

2008-07-31 Thread Neal McBurnett
ded specs along the lines of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyBusinessServer https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec Please join the Server Team and get involved! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ > It is only a matter of time

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-08 Thread Neal McBurnett
t for us to report issues to the hardware manufacturers and tell them we'd like them to do open source development and testing if they want folks to buy their hardware. If we all think "they'll just ignore me" than no one will write to them and they'll think it i

Re: Need to upgrade apache2 and php5 for security reasons

2008-07-02 Thread Neal McBurnett
untu/+source/php5/+bug/227464/comments/15 and a ppa version for Hardy in https://edge.launchpad.net/~tormodvolden/+archive Which all goes to show that searching the bug database first, or early on in the conversation, would avoid a lot of messages Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Reusing old specs

2008-05-12 Thread Neal McBurnett
pid Another thing that would help a lot is if launchpad could let us see which blueprints have been _proposed_ for a sprint: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/111610 which is a dup of https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/blueprint/+bug/66093 so we'd know we didn't have to du

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-07 Thread Neal McBurnett
words over unencrypted connections, or users will get used to bypassing yet another set of dialogs and phishing will continue scarcely abated. E.g. how hard is it for folks to buy in to their own web of trust and get e.g. all CACert certs accepted? http://cacert.org Neal McBurnett

Re: Developemnt and use - Training manual

2008-04-25 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:15:32AM -0600, Neal McBurnett wrote: > I think the "non-commercial" part is more complicated than most people > think, and makes it less useful to both commercial and non-commercial > use. I've looked some more and here are some specifics

Re: Developemnt and use - Training manual

2008-04-25 Thread Neal McBurnett
have to share modifications, and we would all benefit - both the training community, and the whole Ubuntu user and developer community - because it would be essentially a win-win-win. Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ > Hope this clears any misunderstanding. > >

Re: libc borked

2008-03-13 Thread Neal McBurnett
x27;s a hug for finally adding some *helpful* content to this discussion. A bug reference - just what Todd so nicely asked for!! And thanks to all the developers who got us this far, and who make things happen, and who try to learn from the past. Yeah, we're all human. Neal McBurnett

Re: Securely downloading Ubuntu

2008-01-29 Thread Neal McBurnett
Competition http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/ST/hash/ On Tue, Jan 29, 2008 at 02:36:41PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Jan 28, 2008, at 5:28 PM, Neal McBurnett wrote: > >Cryptographers are nervous about not only MD5, but also all the > >functions in the same class, which include

Re: Securely downloading Ubuntu

2008-01-28 Thread Neal McBurnett
list have to be approved by the moderator] On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 10:51:49PM -0500, Fabian Rodriguez wrote: > Neal McBurnett wrote: > | That ftpmaster key is already on installed systems, right? I would > | think we could preinstall system keyrings and give instructions that > |

Re: Securely downloading Ubuntu

2008-01-28 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 05:20:52PM +, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 09:28:48AM -0700, Neal McBurnett wrote: > > > (I'm all in favor of moving to SHA256 or whatever is considered best > > > practice these days. I've just not heard that MD5 is re

Re: Securely downloading Ubuntu

2008-01-28 Thread Neal McBurnett
hash > > information based on trust roots that are (or should be) on your > > system already. > > > > Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ > > > > > /Lamby > > > > > Forgive me if i'm missing the obvious. Why should

Re: Securely downloading Ubuntu

2008-01-28 Thread Neal McBurnett
not ship the <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> key? > If the MD5SUMS files are purely for validating downloads[3], could the > completely useless/misleading GPG files be dropped? They are far from useless - they are the only way to validate the hash information based on trust roots that are (or should

Re: Kerberos? Does anyone have this running?

2008-01-10 Thread Neal McBurnett
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 03:02:28PM -0700, Kevin Fries wrote: > > https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krb5/+bug/159357 > > Yep, saw that, and followed that thread. But I like many others have > dnsdomainname working correctly, and it is still not working. ... > Others in the forums rep

Re: Kerberos? Does anyone have this running?

2008-01-10 Thread Neal McBurnett
forums) led me quickly to this: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/krb5/+bug/159357 which gives more details on the root problem: dnsdomainname is not finding the FQDN. For me, a gutsy install in which I gave it my FQDN at install time properly put my FQDN in the /etc/hosts file,

VOIP: ekiga, wengophone, twinkle (was What is 'administrivia')

2007-12-31 Thread Neal McBurnett
ing we should encourage is that Ubuntu users use Skype. I've had success with ekiga. Removing it from main without a free alternative would be a setback. Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify

Re: What is 'administrivia'?

2007-12-30 Thread Neal McBurnett
ng lists send requests like "subscribe" or "help" to the entire list, rather than to the administrative address assocaited with the list. So the software tries to filter that "administrivia" out so it doesn't spam the other subscribers. My guess would be to look f

Re: Appropriateness of posts to this list (Was Re: evince crash)

2007-12-06 Thread Neal McBurnett
creative new ways to contribute is another. My own suggestions for contributors, both developers and non-developers, is in a talk I did last month for the Boulder Linux Users Group: http://mcburnett.org/neal/talks/contribute_to_ubuntu.html Cheers, Neal McBurnett http://mcburnett.org/neal/ -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-12-04 Thread Neal McBurnett
er analysis is needed. And this issue has at least one official blueprint: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/prompt-for-fsck-on-shutdown https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsckspec You can try AutoFsck: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutoFsck Neal McBurnett http://mcbu

Re: Our best foot forward

2007-11-25 Thread Neal McBurnett
noticing these standard ways of getting information and doing configuration "The Ubuntu/Debian Way". But I think these are just the sorts of things we want more and more users to be aware of. Now, instead, people suffer with systems that don't work the way they want, or hack config

Re: Our best foot forward

2007-11-20 Thread Neal McBurnett
nfigure their systems with a nice graphical environment over the web. They can do it either from a local browser or from another machine. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EboxSpec It uses the web because we shouldn't require servers to have the huge set of (potentially dangerous) packages that are neede