Re: how to apply a patch to glibc and build it?

2009-10-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-10-12 kello 11:29 +0530, skar kirjoitti: > The question is, how do I build glibc sources with my patch using the > "debuild" command? This should work, if I remember correctly: apt-get source libc6 cd glibc-whatever debian/rules patch ... make your changes debuild -- Ubuntu-devel-di

Re: Delta debs / zsync (etc) discussions gone quiet?

2009-08-21 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2009-08-21 kello 14:57 +0200, Pär Andersson kirjoitti: > Have you benchmarked zsync against the Packages.diff files used by > Debian? From https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-July/028568.html: I have not compared zsync with pdiffs. Ubuntu does not use pdiffs be

Re: Delta debs / zsync (etc) discussions gone quiet?

2009-08-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2009-08-11 kello 04:39 +0530, Vishal Rao kirjoitti: > There was recently some mailing list activity about benchmarking tests > for > delta debs/zsync etc but things seem to have gone quiet recently. Is > there a wiki/spec/blueprint or another mailing list where I can track > progress? The spec

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: > Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition > has been based around the idea that these files are somehow more > important than, say, /bin/sh Putting the kernel (i.e., /boot) on a separate partition is often mandat

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-05-31 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-06-01 kello 09:12 +0800, Christopher Chan kirjoitti: > Take that up with the GlibC guys and/or the C/C++ standards body if you > wish and I personally do not want to see any distribution specific > library of such functions and the resulting distribution specific > patches of packages t

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

2009-05-31 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2009-05-28 kello 23:23 +0200, Benjamin Drung kirjoitti: > There is currently an inconsistency with units across the Ubuntu > desktop. Some applications (such as gvfs) use legacy units, such as a > 1024-byte kilobyte. Others (such as System Monitor) use international > standard units, such as a

Re: gnome-scan

2009-04-27 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-04-27 kello 09:41 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan kirjoitti: > On Monday 27 April 2009 1:51:51 am Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > Flegita doesn't find my scanner, which is attached to another computer, > > and shared across the network with the net backend of SANE. > > I

gnome-scan

2009-04-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2009-04-26 kello 21:41 -0500, solaris manzur kirjoitti: > i agree about replacing xsane by gnome-scan Are we talking about flegita? (There is no gnome-scan package in jaunty, and I can't find a command by that name.) Flegita doesn't find my scanner, which is attached to another computer, and

Re: system-cleaner-gtk Documentation

2009-04-22 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2009-04-17 kello 08:18 -0500, DB Cummings kirjoitti: > Hello, > > I would like to assist with documentation for Cruft Remover > (system-cleaner-gtk). May I be of assistance? Certainly. Any documentation should be written against the jaunty version, which is called Computer Janitor (packages

Re: Please don't automatic upgrade

2009-04-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-04-06 kello 15:24 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia kirjoitti: > Unless you can _guarantee_ that every upgrade will NOT harm the system As you point out, it is not possible to guarantee that. However, it is probably best to point out that not upgrading can also harm things, when it is about securit

Re: Reason for removing animation from Gnome login?

2009-03-25 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2009-03-25 kello 23:38 +, Matt Wheeler kirjoitti: > 2009/3/25 Marius Gedminas : > > No. Sqlite likes to fsync(). Ext3 blocks the whole system when you > > fsync(). Remember when Firefox 3 first appeared in Ubuntu? > > I don't think fsync() is inherently bad, just it's overuse. More int

Re: Reason for removing animation from Gnome login?

2009-03-23 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-03-23 kello 11:57 +, Scott James Remnant kirjoitti: > On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 22:25 +0100, Ernst Persson wrote: > > > I saw Scott removing animation from gnome login. What's the reason for > > that? I don't see any motivation or reference to a bugreport. > > > There's a reference to an

Re: No option to "save history as" in Gnomes terminal

2009-03-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2009-03-19 kello 21:55 +0100, Nigel Henry kirjoitti: > Can anyone suggest who I should contact to have the "save history as" > option > added to Gnomes terminal. The best way to do that would be to talk to the gnome-terminal maintainers within the GNOME project. Start by filing a bug to http:

Re: aufs based upgrade tests

2009-03-20 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2009-03-19 kello 16:20 +0100, Martin Soto kirjoitti: > Seconded, you start your session once with the new version installed, > and there's often no way back. Applications will surely update their > configuration data as soon as they're started, and there's no guarantee > that they'll work when

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-26 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2009-02-26 kello 13:59 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan kirjoitti: > On Thursday 26 February 2009 1:44:13 pm Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > > which resolution have you got? > > It's not just the resolution. "Resolution" tends to be a bad word for these things. I'd suggest "pixel count" for number of pixels o

Re: how to test restricted nvidia drivers on live cd without CAB?

2009-02-16 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2009-02-16 kello 11:51 +, Odysseus Flappington kirjoitti: > One trick I've used quite a few times, was to test to see if the > nvidia restricted drivers would work on a machine before installing by > doing the following: > > 1) booting a live cd > 2) installing the restricted drivers > 3)

Re: "Open With" dialog not user-friendly

2009-02-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2009-02-06 kello 14:03 +0100, Thomas Novin kirjoitti: > Why must the fix be a Ubuntu-specific fix and not a general upstream > fix? Please do make a patch that is acceptable to upstream! Until it is accepted by upstream, it seems Ubuntu can't apply it, though. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss maili

Re: How can we run the default browser under Linux?

2009-02-04 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2009-02-04 kello 13:55 +0200, Ioannis Vranos kirjoitti: > I am using a process to open a web site, but I call "firefox" explicitly. > > Is there any way to run the default browser set at a Linux account? In Debian, and Ubuntu, and systems based on them, you can run the sensible-browser comman

Re: What package should this bug go to?

2009-01-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2009-01-07 kello 09:28 +, Odysseus Flappington kirjoitti: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/299395 > > Can someone tell me what package this bug should actually go to since > it's a pretty easy fix, and makes a difference to very non-technical > users? If I have u

Re: Apport in stable releases [was: Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list]

2008-11-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2008-11-14 kello 12:36 +0100, Martin Pitt kirjoitti: > Problem is that in order to do that, we need to catch the initial > crash first and write it to disk, i. e. we would get the CPU/IO > overhead again by default. That alone doesn't worry me too much, but > it might be an issue in certain env

Re: Cruft Remover (system-cleaner): testing help?

2008-11-09 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2008-11-09 kello 09:32 -0800, Dean Loros kirjoitti: > Where is the "white-list" located? /etc/cruft-remover.d/*.whitelist -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-di

Cruft Remover (system-cleaner): testing help?

2008-11-08 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Hi. I've made a version of Cruft Remover (binary packages system-cleaner and system-cleaner-gtk) that fixes the worst problems, I hope. * Added Polish translation from Piotr Makowski. (Closes: LP# 290196) * The apt Packages list is now checked for sanity. (Closes: LP# 290024) * Icon is now

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 18:01 +0200, Lars Wirzenius kirjoitti: > I follow the legal advice I got, from a real lawyer, and that was clear: > change the name. Matthew, I'm sorry I chose those words. I didn't no mean to imply you are not a real lawyer. I did not know you were a lawyer

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 13:35 +, Matthew East kirjoitti: > Heh, you took me a bit too literally there. I meant that the word > should be removed from the application completely, but of course it > would need to be replacd with another title. To be honest, I find the > word "Remover" a bit awkward,

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 12:49 +0100, Markus Hitter kirjoitti: > Doesn't apt-get suggest to "auto-remove" packages from time to time? > Obviously, the packaging mechanism keeps track of which packages were > installed by user command and which ones solely as a dependency. That's true, and a future

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:11 +, Matthew East kirjoitti: > On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 7:29 AM, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic kirjoitti: > >> On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote: > >> > h

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 10:30 +, Matthew East kirjoitti: > If there is genuinely no way of keeping the system clean without some > user intervention, then certainly there is a use for such a program. There is really no way of knowing for certain that a given package is or is not required by the u

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 08:17 +0100, Mario Vukelic kirjoitti: > On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 11:31 +0530, shirish wrote: > > had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due > > to trademark related names. > > Non-technical users have absolutely no idea what "cruft" means. > Wikipedia correctly says, "Cruft is com

Re: rename system-cleaner-gtk to cruft-remover-gtk

2008-11-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-11-03 kello 11:31 +0530, shirish kirjoitti: > Hi all, > I know you guys introduced a package/tool by the name of > system-cleaner-gtk and then had to rename it to cruft-remover-gtk due > to trademark related names. In the Jaunty cycle it would be nice if > you (whoever the maintainer is)

Re: .recently-used : provide a way to disable the logging

2008-09-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2008-09-15 kello 11:05 +0200, Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk kirjoitti: > 2008/9/13 (R)om <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Every action taken is logged in ~/.recently-used and ~/.recently-used.xbel. > > It should be fine to provide a way to disable this (useless?) logging. > > It's definitely not useles

Re: Apport bug of feature?

2008-09-11 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2008-09-10 kello 14:13 +0100, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando kirjoitti: > During development, we turn apport back on, and it starts to catch ALL bugs. > But there are software that aint on Ubuntu reps (most on PPAs) and apport > tries to report the bug/crash and fails. > It is happening to me, several

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2008-09-10 kello 09:22 +0200, Markus Hitter kirjoitti: > This is what Windows XP does already, isn't it? You boot, get > automatic login, see the desktop, but essentially have to wait longer > to do something useful. Or, indeed, to do anything. I've experienced this with my girlfriend's la

Re: ext4 in Intrepid?

2008-08-14 Thread Lars Wirzenius
to, 2008-08-14 kello 17:57 +1000, Chris Jones kirjoitti: > So I guess I find it ironic that they are still recommending > very-regular backups. Backups are not ironic. Backups are yummy. Backups are the health food that tastes like junk food. Backups are the smell of a clean world after summer rai

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-13 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2008-08-13 kello 18:33 -0400, Phillip Susi kirjoitti: > Andrew Sayers wrote: > > > I assume that the equivalent of "umount $snapshot" is done within the > > kernel when the snapshot is created, because it gives you a new > > non-mounted block device. It's therefore possible to do fsck from cr

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2008-08-12 kello 15:07 +0100, Matt Zimmerman kirjoitti: > On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:59:22PM +0100, Alexander Jones wrote: > > 2008/8/12 Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > A way to avoid that would be to set up systems with LVM, and use an LVM > > >

Re: Automatic fsck

2008-08-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2008-08-12 kello 20:57 +1000, Ian Chennell kirjoitti: > If fsck is to run during shutdown, then there definitely needs to be a > means to easily skip it, or perhaps defer it to run at the next startup. > Many people (like me :P) leave it till the very last minute at work > before doing an "exp

Re: Bug madness: High frequency of load/unload cycles

2008-05-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ke, 2008-05-14 kello 02:11 -0400, Mackenzie Morgan kirjoitti: > Could a list of vendors who make crappy hard drives (ie ones with this > issue) be made so we all can avoid them? I can say my Western Digitals > don't have the issue, though they do have a tendency to die anyway (bad > sectors and de

Re: UNDELETION EXT3 workaround

2008-02-19 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2008-02-19 at 20:57 -0500, A. Walton wrote: > On Feb 17, 2008 8:11 PM, Vincent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > > alias rm="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" > > alias rmdir="mv --force --target-directory=$HOME/.Trash/" > [/snip] > > And of course, that would break any scrip

Re: Minimal Hardy Alpha Images

2008-02-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2008-02-12 at 00:22 +, (=?utf-8?q?=60=60-=5F-=C2=B4=C2=B4?=) -- Fernando wrote: > On Monday 04 February 2008 12:01:00 Sarah Hobbs wrote: > > You are using rsync for updating images, aren't you? > > > > Hobbsee > > How does one do that? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-08 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On pe, 2008-02-08 at 12:53 -0500, A. Walton wrote: > I could see a use, as this is Ubuntu Studio and not Ubuntu; music > producers often need to check CPU usage of their software, and avoid > pegging the CPU to avoid nasty pops, cracks and hisses caused by > hardware hiccups. While some utilities

Re: "Make sense" keymap to launch gnome-system-monitor?

2008-02-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2008-02-06 at 15:49 -0500, Evan wrote: > I'm sure this debate has gone on before, but I'm in favour of stopping > Ctrl-Alt-Backspace from killing X because new users can press this by > accident. That combo would work if it was freed from its present duty. Er, would that not be a colossall

Re: KVM, virt-manager, etc.

2008-02-04 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2008-02-03 at 23:48 +, (=?utf-8?q?=60=60-=5F-=C2=B4=C2=B4?=) -- Fernando wrote: > egrep ‘(vmx|svm)’ /proc/cpuinfo Someone, somewhere, has replaced the correct ASCII single quotes (code point 39, hexadecimla 0x27) with something else. Replace the quotes with ASCII single or double quote

Re: Hardy Alpha-4 synaptic error

2008-02-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On su, 2008-02-03 at 09:05 -0600, Richard Mancusi wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ gksu update-manager > warning: could not initiate dbus You don't need to run update-manager as root. It will switch to root (and ask for username then) when it needs it. This should at least fix the dbus initialization

Re: tracking down suspend/hibernate bugs?

2008-01-17 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2008-01-17 at 11:59 +0100, Paulus Esterhazy wrote: > It would be *very* helpful if a developer who really knows this stuff > could write a document on the Wiki detailing how this process works for > hardy. To users, suspend problems are opaque, because there often are no > logs readily avail

Re: Changing dpkg-deb default compression from gzip to lzma for Hardy

2007-12-19 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ke, 2007-12-19 at 13:34 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > I upgrade a between 2 days and 2 weeks before release to avoid waiting > 4 hours for the upgrade to download on release day, like I did with > Edgy. For releases, one can almost certainly wait a few days for the worst rush to be over. F

Re: Changing dpkg-deb default compression from gzip to lzma for Hardy

2007-12-17 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ma, 2007-12-17 at 13:05 +0100, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: > It is hard to judge best compression using only one package. On a lark, I ran a little script that re-compresses the components of a .deb with the desired compression program, and reports results: bzip2: Packages, total count: 22485 Or

Re: Easier and more reliable ISO downloads, with error correction

2007-11-06 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On ti, 2007-11-06 at 17:12 -0500, Phillip Susi wrote: > In my 12 years of extensive Internet use, and several years prior to > that of using BBSes, I have NEVER had a download corrupted. It seems to > me that the sophisticated error detection and correction measures in the > underlying links ar