Re: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ?

2008-03-23 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 13:06 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > Phil Housley wrote on 2006-03-01: (permalink) > > As far as I can remember the reasons for nm-applet not being an applet: > * It has to appear as needed, which an applet can't. And it *should* only appear as needed. At the moment it's pre

Re: nm-applet : Notification Area or Panel Applet ?

2008-03-23 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 19:40 -0700, Jerone Young wrote: > This nm-applet is also for configuration changes. Configuration's supposed to be done from the System menu, isn't it? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://l

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-16 Thread Greg K Nicholson
d idea to show the user what settings they'll be able to change *before* having them enter their password, which is tedious by design. -- Greg K Nicholson -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-15 Thread Greg K Nicholson
e variety of cultures, I'd suggest using something like “Preferences for Greg”. If that's not possible, just “Preferences” will do—the word “preference” tends to imply *personal* preference anyway. -- Greg K Nicholson -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Greg K Nicholson
to the user, not vice-versa. The help tips for several items in the main menu already use “your”, including Places → Home Folder, Places → Desktop and – bizarrely – System → Preferences → About Me. -- Greg K Nicholson -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.c

Re: Bug and discussion about ubuntu menu

2008-03-14 Thread Greg K Nicholson
omain > (printing, screen...) you want to configure. Everything else is bloating > the menu - and will ask much work that cannot be unified in one package. How about relabelling Preferences → Preferred Applications to just Preferences → Applications? “Preferred” seems redundant. -- Greg K Nichol

Re: mailing list for cross-distributions collaboration

2008-03-02 Thread Greg K Nicholson
gt; > [2] http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/distributions Is there an equivalent newsgroup (for example at gmane.org)? -- Greg K Nicholson -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Miro (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

2008-02-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Sat, 2008-02-09 at 13:09 -0500, Evan wrote: > I'm typing this on a P3 1Ghz with 256MB of ram. Ubuntu runs moderately > slowly but easily survivable. ... > I'd say that this is about the lowest-end pc you'll find normal Ubuntu > installed on though. 1 GHz? Luxury! I run Ubuntu on a ~700-MHz At

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

2008-01-08 Thread Greg K Nicholson
> What about the menu button though? Who ever uses that? It does the > same thing as right-clicking all the time, so it's kinda pointless. > People using a keyboard and not a mouse use the menu key. I have the right Windows key set as Compose as it doesn't seem to do anything else. (Amarok's g

Re: Patent issues with automatic codec installation

2007-12-03 Thread Greg K Nicholson
On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 21:29 -0400, Cody A.W. Somerville wrote: > So, the next time you wish to send such a nonconstructive and > inflaming post, why not do us a favor and send it to /dev/null > instead. > Let's not begin an infinite series where each participant repeats a paraphrase of this to th

Re: Patent issues with automatic codec installation (was: Automatic installation of DVD CSS support)

2007-12-01 Thread Greg K Nicholson
> Perhaps a good compromise would be to default to Codec Buddy and have > a button for "Multiverse Codecs". When the user clicks the button, > they could be presented with a message *actively discouraging* them > from using the multiverse versions and highlighting that they are > likely to break t

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-18 Thread Greg K Nicholson
There is a bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/145524 It seems that this is a feature, not a bug. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-14 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Michael Maurizi: > How about including changes to the version string and so on the next > time theres a security update for GIMP? Yes; when an Ubuntu package has fixes from upstream applied, that they've released in a new version with a bumped version number, the version number in Ubuntu should

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
I think we're only *surprised* that this isn't being done already because the Ubuntu team are usually so unreservedly awesome, and have usually figured out a way to make stuff happen and have actually made the stuff happen, before we were even aware that we *wanted* said stuff to happen. Genera

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Greg K Nicholson: > no more updates (beyond what are > already done). By this I meant “no more updates (other than the current normal update processes)”. I certainly didn't mean freeze all updates on that package forever. That would be silly :) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Aaron C. de Bruyn: > It boils down to this: If users aren't running into bugs, why repackage? Because having “Release Conadidate” on the splash screen and “rc” in the About box gives users the impression that this is not a trustworthy, final version of GIMP. And because the version number the

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Aaron C. de Bruyn: > So you are saying that we should react to new versions by packaging the up on > the basis that there are probably users that could maybe be having bugs but > haven't reported them. We should react on that basis only to new, stable versions of packages where the current vers

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-11 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Dean Sas: > Greg K Nicholson wrote: >> So we're actually getting 2.4.1 (or something very much like it), but >> labelled “2.4.0rc3”? > > Precisely. Often Ubuntu packages might include patches from upstream > that haven't yet been made part of a release. See Emme

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-10 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Toby Smithe: > There seems to be some confusion here: regardless of the content of the > version string, bug fixes from upstream will have been ported back to > the current Ubuntu package. The two releases are functionally identical, > the only difference is the content of a string. So we're actua

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Aaron C. de Bruyn: > Upgrading simply because there is a newer version number is the wrong > attitude. It's not that fact that it's a newer version (number): it's that it's a final, stable release versus a non-final non-stable release. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
OK, thanks. Just wondering out loud. :) -- Greg -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Release candidates in main - was: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Kai Schroeder: > Now, every time they start the gimp, a > splash screen appears which says "release candidate" (Actually, it says “release conadidate”, for me anyway :) ) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists

A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-08 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Is a compatibility layer (like Wine) to run Mac OS X programs on Linux feasible? Does one already exist? It seems to me, the uneducated layman, that it should be *easier* to make a Mac compatibility layer (“Mine”?) than one for Windows since: OS X is Unix-like, Darwin is open source (so less re

Re: A responsible use of the "incomplete" status.

2007-09-27 Thread Greg K Nicholson
[Minimally-knowledgeable user interjecting here:] Would it help if “possibly complete” bugs were (somehow) easily distinguishable from other Incomplete bugs? By “possibly complete” I mean a bug that is marked as Incomplete, but that has had “some” activity since being marked Incomplete. “Some”

Re: Announcement: One Click Installer

2007-08-07 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Krzysztof Lichota: > Greg K Nicholson napisał(a): >> Krzysztof Lichota: >>> Creator of One Click Installer installation file decides which >>> repository will be used. If the application is available in Ubuntu >>> repository I do not see the point why he wou

Re: Announcement: One Click Installer

2007-08-07 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Matt Zimmerman: > Instead, the metadata file need > only provide the name of the package, and the local package manager can > install it from the official repository. How would this be better than (or different from) the apt/install protocol? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-di

Re: Announcement: One Click Installer

2007-08-07 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Krzysztof Lichota: > Creator of One Click Installer installation file decides which > repository will be used. If the application is available in Ubuntu > repository I do not see the point why he would prefer to point to some > other repository. Maybe the OCI file's creator uses a different distro

Re: Suggestion: Actively support reverse engineering projects

2007-08-07 Thread Greg K Nicholson
If this could be done with absolutely no user intervention (i.e. if the only thing missing is the right hardware), perhaps we could come up with something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or, simpler, a program that the user starts manually and just leaves running (while not using t

Re: Announcement: One Click Installer

2007-08-06 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Krzysztof Lichota: > Conrad Knauer napisał(a): >> I note, later on in your e-mail >> that you have in mind basically a front-end for just about any package >> management system. That's one way towards getting a unified Linux >> package management system, though Mark Shuttleworth comments that "so

Re: Announcement: One Click Installer

2007-08-06 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Krzysztof Lichota: > Greg K Nicholson napisał(a): >> The apt protocol ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptFirefoxFileHandler ) will >> fix this. > > Yes, this is similar to what I want to achieve, but: > - it does not provide information for different distributions and other &

Re: Announcement: One Click Installer

2007-08-06 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Conrad Knauer: > On 8/6/07, Krzysztof Lichota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Package installation applications (Synaptic, Adept) and apt repositories >> do not solve the problem for the following reasons: >> 1. Repositories must be added manually and this exceeds skills of >> average Windows user. K