Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread John Moser
On 04/08/2012 01:26 AM, Dane Mutters wrote: Michael and others, I realize it can be very satisfying to deliver a well-placed rant, but I hope I'm not "out of line" to remind everyone that without moderating our language to be as unoffensive as possible, no web conversation can be very produc

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread Dane Mutters
> > > Oh it goes well and truely far beyond that. Some pinhead decided to move > /var/run to /run without leaving a symlink or informing and updating > packages. > I had an unfortunate 10.04 LTS system go unbootable until I got onto the > console to fix it so networking could even come up since on

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Loftis
Sent from my Motorola Xoom On Apr 7, 2012 5:44 AM, "Dale Amon" wrote: > At one point I tried to build a 'special' statically > linked ssh... an effort that didn't work out... with > the idea of having it available on some port as an > emergency backdoor for sysadmins that cam

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread Michael Loftis
Sent from my Motorola Xoom On Apr 1, 2012 6:23 AM, "Dale Amon" wrote: > > With the release date for the new LTS coming > rapidly, I am faced with a quandary. There are > things in Precise which I need; I do not like > to be behind the curve for updates and such; > but I just

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-07 Thread John McCabe-Dansted
> LastPass may be secure today, but it is trivially easy for LastPass > (or a hypothetical attacker who gains access to LastPass's > infrastructure) to compromise that security simply by replacing the > javascript code which does the client side encryption and decryption > with some code that also

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 09:22:35PM +0200, Lanoxx wrote: > To add one example to yours, the new print dialog that is available > by default on oneiric has a lot less functionality then the tool > from maverick. Unless one knows that the old print configuration > tool is still available as "system-co

Re: How to install built kernel?

2012-04-07 Thread Nils Kassube
Alfred Zhong wrote: > However, after I type $ sudo make-kpkg kernel-image > and built the kernel. I tried to look for the deb package. I search > the whole computer and can't find something like > kernel-image-2.6.15_10.00.Custom_i386.deb... IIRC, the package should be in the directory above your

How to install built kernel?

2012-04-07 Thread Alfred Zhong
I am doing a project to modify the Linux kernel. So I followed the tutorial here: http://commons.oreilly.com/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu_Hacks/Administration#Build_Kernels_the_Ubuntu_Way Build Kernels the Ubuntu Way section. By the way, I am using the ubuntu server version for this project. However, a

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread Lanoxx
I fully agree with you. I love Ubuntu but this new trend of reinventing things that are good but not prefect and then coming up with something that has a lot less functionality (in the beginning at least) is not a very good thing. However in defense of the Ubuntu developers it needs to be said

Re: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:23:40AM -0400, Sam Smith wrote: > > here's what they say about FOSS > https://spideroak.com/engineering_matters#open_source > > note that Canonical has cloud stuff that is not open source. Some companies > apparently can't remain competitive if everything is open sou

RE: Ubuntu One needs cloud encryption like LastPass does it

2012-04-07 Thread Sam Smith
here's what they say about FOSS https://spideroak.com/engineering_matters#open_source note that Canonical has cloud stuff that is not open source. Some companies apparently can't remain competitive if everything is open sourced. > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 00:25:47 +0100 > From: a...@vnl.com > To

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 05:44:53PM +0300, Marius Gedminas wrote: > Filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssh/+bug/975985 > since I also would find it welcome. Thank you! Your name will be blessed by many high wizards from their fortress sysadmin keeps! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mail

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:14:23AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:53:05AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > > 1 A pet peeve of mine: a long time ago when I > > hand rolled critical systems out of linux, I had ssh come > > up almost before anything else. I consider it a bug that

Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread Dale Amon
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Re: How to install Precise without getting screwed?

2012-04-07 Thread Dane Mutters
I'm not keen on getting involved in a debate, but since this issue affects my ability to be productive on Ubuntu, as well, I find it appropriate to inform the developers of it. I'm aware that there have been numerous complaint threads on this mailing list and others about some people finding Unity

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Fri, Apr 06, 2012 at 07:04:41PM -0700, Benjamin Kerensa wrote: > On 04/06/2012 06:53 PM, Dale Amon wrote: > >Did a whole bunch of 'Precise' updates that showed up today > >and on reboot the server is continuously printing: > > > >Buffer I/O error on device fd0, logical block 0 > >end_request I/O

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Dale Amon
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 11:14:23AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > sshd is started as soon as all filesystems are mounted, which I can tell > you is considerably earlier than it used to be started! I'm not going > to change it for precise now, but it'd probably be possible to start it > as soon as al

Re: server went unbootable

2012-04-07 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 02:53:05AM +0100, Dale Amon wrote: > 1 A pet peeve of mine: a long time ago when I > hand rolled critical systems out of linux, I had ssh come > up almost before anything else. I consider it a bug that > it is delayed so long in the boot process, as do some > other h

Accessing GVFS mounts from 3rd party applications?

2012-04-07 Thread David Klasinc
Greetings, Each time a device is automatically mounted by operating system every gnome/gtk aware application can access it without any problems. The problem is with non-gnome applications. There is no way to access all those devices and auto mounting loses its purpose. With various storage device