Re: let's drop compiz for gnome 3

2009-10-08 Thread Danny Piccirillo
i brought this up on my blog and i think that might already be the plan: http://blog.thesilentnumber.me/2009/09/dropping-compiz-for-mutter-metacity-3.html On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 00:30, solaris manzur wrote: > because compositing for this version is one thousand times good than compiz > > -- > Ubu

let's drop compiz for gnome 3

2009-10-08 Thread solaris manzur
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Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2009-10-08 at 16:59 -0400, Stuart Read wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Chen wrote: > > > > I don't think the situation is nearly as bleak as you paint it here, > > Hear, hear. I don't really know anything about audio but when I > started using Ubuntu (Dapper) it was bad (f

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Daniel Chen
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Remco wrote: > Why has it not been changed in Hardy? Did it break other stuff? Firstly, it was too late to make the change. Secondly, it breaks with upstream's (PA's) adamant policy that (ALSA) hw: be used by default, not dmix: or dsnoop:. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Stuart Read
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Daniel Chen wrote: > > I don't think the situation is nearly as bleak as you paint it here, Hear, hear. I don't really know anything about audio but when I started using Ubuntu (Dapper) it was bad (for me). Now, every release the audio situation on my old craptop g

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Remco
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 22:55, Daniel Chen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Remco wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 14:40, Daniel Chen wrote: >>> The sad thing is that we could have shipped a two-line >>> change to /etc/pulse/default.pa that would have alleviated nearly all >>> of the (use

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Daniel Chen
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Remco wrote: > On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 14:40, Daniel Chen wrote: >> The sad thing is that we could have shipped a two-line >> change to /etc/pulse/default.pa that would have alleviated nearly all >> of the (users') showstoppers. The change remains in my >> pulseaudi

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Daniel Chen
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Martin Olsson wrote: > Sound was broken for me in all releases before hardy and then > in hardy it worked _perfectly_ with Skype, Flash etc. Sound Again, just because it worked for you does not mean that it wasn't broken. If you care to look outside your hardware a

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Martin Olsson
Daniel Chen wrote: > Just because ALSA has appeared to be > sufficient in the past does not mean that it is, or even will be, > sufficient. Saying that ALSA only "appeared to be sufficient" feels Sound was broken for me in all releases before hardy and then in hardy it worked _perfectly_ wit

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le jeudi 08 octobre 2009 à 14:14 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia a écrit : > Ubuntu did not show particular interest in any of the above > policies. Typically, the new software replaces the old one, period. It's simply not true. GNOME 2.26 (ie jaunty cycle) enforced the pulseaudio requirement and we did d

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Remco
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 14:40, Daniel Chen wrote: > The sad thing is that we could have shipped a two-line > change to /etc/pulse/default.pa that would have alleviated nearly all > of the (users') showstoppers. The change remains in my > pulseaudio/hardy bzr branch. Why? -- Remco -- Ubuntu-dev

RE:Idea for 10.04

2009-10-08 Thread j
This is my fisrt time posting here, I was watching this thread with interest. Debian,BSD,Fedora and others offer the Select what Software to install at first run. I like this for the reason that if I do not want a server or a certain program in the install or build process, it does not occur. If I

Evolution attachments

2009-10-08 Thread George Farris
I've just noticed that the new Evolution no long displays a paper clip in the toolbar for adding attachments. This function has now moved to a button at the bottom of the window. Almost every email application in the world uses the paper clip as an indication of adding attachments, why then did E

Re: Re: idea for 10.04

2009-10-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
if i have seen correctly that the internet is required to sync. devs feel free to comment if that isnt correct. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 7:34 AM, benny.gaech...@bluewin.ch < benny.gaech...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > >> isnt the internet connection required thought to sync time with an ntp > >> server at

Re: idea for 10.04

2009-10-08 Thread Jonathan Aquilina
would this feature be better off included in the dvd then the live cd. if its just included in the dvd i honestly think users would start complaining that it also needs to be in the live cd as well. On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Sarah Hobbs wrote: > On 25/09/09 16:52, Jonathan Aquilina wrote:

Re: [ao] Two patches for libao2

2009-10-08 Thread John Ferlito
Hi Heikki, So libao is currently not maintained upstream. In the appropriate IRC channels I'm lead to believe that there are better libraries out there that should be used instead. If so many debian packages didn't link against it I would seriously consider dropping it all together. It doesn't s

AW: Re: idea for 10.04

2009-10-08 Thread benny.gaech...@bluewin.ch
>> isnt the internet connection required thought to sync time with an ntp >> server at somepoint during the installation. >It tries to sync, but the installation doesn't stop if it can't find an >internet connection. There's nothing in the installer that requires >internet (fortunately). >Hobb

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Daniel Chen
On Thu, Oct 8, 2009 at 8:14 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > The real problem that nobody seemed ever to be getting is that when you > introduce huge regressions, then you probably should 1) either not > distribute the software yet 2) or put more energy into bug fixing for > the particular software,

Re: Pulse audio

2009-10-08 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On Wed, 2009-10-07 at 23:32 -0400, Daniel Chen wrote: > > > Granted, fixing things upstream is generally smiled upon more so than > focusing on a particular distribution. In the case of stellar Ubuntu > audio bugs, perhaps contributing more than "just testing" is way > forward? The real problem