Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-11 Thread Patrick H.
Like any other descriptive characters, any name can be penned. At any rate, mono is useful, there's a few cases I've come across were mono just did the trick. Of course as a technology itself, there are pros and cons. I can advocate for and against mono. About the opportunities that it brings as

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/06/12 11:13 (GMT+0800) Christopher Chan composed: >>> Well, as there is no "generic" MBR, what MBR do you use? The Windows' one? >>> Mac OS X's, *BSD's? >> I don't know what '"generic" MBR' is either. I was referring to generic MBR >> _code_, an optional feature of an openSUSE installatio

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Christopher Chan
>>> Astute multibooters whose other options include a non-Linux OS do _not_ >>> place Grub in the MBR. Better to make that the universal default, never >>> addressing via MBR, instead leaving the MBR code generic, and using >>> that generic code with a primary partition containing a Grub that _no_

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/06/11 20:27 (GMT+0200) Markus Hitter composed: > Am 11.06.2009 um 10:35 schrieb Felix Miata: >> Astute multibooters whose other options include a non-Linux OS do _not_ >> place Grub in the MBR. Better to make that the universal default, never >> addressing via MBR, instead leaving the MBR

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-11 Thread omgwtf chillout
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:26 PM, David Schlesinger wrote: > > > PS David, I'm relieved you have such a cool boss and I hope you can enjoy > > the rest of your sabbatical. > > Thanks, whoever-the-heck-you-are, I've been having an excellent time and the > childishness we've seen here from the likes

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-11 Thread omgwtf chillout
Taking Luke L's advice here and not using my real name on the internet anymore due to this insanity. I've submitted this thread to Reddit this morning: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/8rmv5/mono_bashers_take_things_too_far_on_ubuntu_lists/ I'm hoping this will wake some people up to make t

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 11.06.2009 um 21:41 schrieb Derek Broughton: > Markus Hitter wrote: >> >> Am 11.06.2009 um 14:47 schrieb Derek Broughton: >> >>> [wrong citation snipped] > > I definitely didn't write that - or if I did, I'm suffering > delusions - > because I believe, and believe I said, the opposite D

Re: Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

2009-06-11 Thread LD 'Gus' Landis
Hi, OT: from OCaml Looking for "seasoned developer" advice. I am new to the "Debian world"... I have some packages that I want to get into the Ubuntu repositories, but getting them in a the "source" level (e.g. Debian) would be even better. How is this done? I have just started m

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Derek Broughton
Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 11.06.2009 um 14:47 schrieb Derek Broughton: > >> Additionally, if you have more than one installation of Ubuntu on the >> same platter, you really want to share /boot with both installations. > I definitely didn't write that - or if I did, I'm suffering delusions -

Re: Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

2009-06-11 Thread Onkar Shinde
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 10:06 PM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > Cool =D With my packages it seems that ubuntu autosync is also usually > triggered after the Debian automatic removal (superseeded packages in > experimental and etc). Anyways so far I had to wait for autosync 0-7 > days. Plus as far I can

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 11.06.2009 um 10:35 schrieb Felix Miata: > On 2009/06/11 09:20 (GMT+0200) Markus Hitter composed: > >> Additionally, if you have more than one installation of Ubuntu on the >> same platter, you really want to share /boot with both installations. > > That's asking for trouble, unless only one o

Re: Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

2009-06-11 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
2009/6/11 Michael Bienia : > On 2009-06-11 01:25:58 +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote: >> When will it happen, by the way? According to [1]: >> > The syncs are done automatically on daily basis until DIF date. >> >> However, pycaml has been uploaded more that 48 hours ago in sid, and it >> has still not

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: > >> Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition >> has been based around the idea that these files are somehow more >> important than, say, /bin/sh >> > > Putting the kernel (i.e., /bo

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Chan Chung Hang Christopher
> Surely the BIOS doesn't actually have to be involved as long as the initial > boot stage can find files anywhere on the disk. > Guess what loads the inital boot stage? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://li

Re: Support data gathering tool

2009-06-11 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
On Thursday 11 June 2009 01:19:02 (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo wrote: > Apport can be set to do a dry run, and not submit the logs to Launchpad, but > stored locally. > The user only needs to get them and upload them to where s/he needs them. > I'm just not sure if this logs are on /tmp or /var/crash $

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Derek Broughton
Felipe Figueiredo wrote: > John, > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:21 PM, John Moser wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Luke L wrote: >>> How many of these things are actually going to make it into Karmic? A >>> dynamically sized swap file? GRUB 2 residing on its own partition, >>> etc? These

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Derek Broughton
Markus Hitter wrote: > Additionally, if you have more than one installation of Ubuntu on the > same platter, you really want to share /boot with both installations. No, "really" you don't. I've tried that and it causes as many headaches as it solves. -- derek -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailin

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Derek Broughton
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: >> Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition >> has been based around the idea that these files are somehow more >> important than, say, /bin/sh > > Putting the kernel (i.e., /boot) on a se

Re: Support data gathering tool

2009-06-11 Thread (``-_-´´) -- BUGabundo
Olá Przemek e a todos. On Wednesday 03 June 2009 12:47:24 Przemek Kulczycki wrote: > What about the forums/answers.lp.net - will the users be able to > attach apport's reports to forums or support requests? Apport can be set to do a dry run, and not submit the logs to Launchpad, but stored local

Re: Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

2009-06-11 Thread Michael Bienia
On 2009-06-11 01:25:58 +0200, Stéphane Glondu wrote: > When will it happen, by the way? According to [1]: > > The syncs are done automatically on daily basis until DIF date. > > However, pycaml has been uploaded more that 48 hours ago in sid, and it > has still not been updated in karmic... or may

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Christopher James Halse Rogers writes: > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 23:35 +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> John Moser writes: >> >> > GRUB2 on its own partition is silly. Like having a separate /boot. >> >> It is required for stuff like root on LVM, a configuration supported by >> the alternate i

Re: Status of OCaml packages on Ubuntu Karmic - 2009-06-10

2009-06-11 Thread Stéphane Glondu
David MENTRE a écrit : > * pycaml: a new version (0.82-10) has been uploaded in Debian which > should fix the issue with Python 2.6 in Karmic after automatic import. > I'm waiting for the automatic import. When will it happen, by the way? According to [1]: > The syncs are done automatically on da

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/06/11 09:20 (GMT+0200) Markus Hitter composed: > Additionally, if you have more than one installation of Ubuntu on the > same platter, you really want to share /boot with both installations. That's asking for trouble, unless only one or fewer installations actually mount the "/boot" on

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Christopher James Halse Rogers
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 09:20 +0200, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 10.06.2009 um 21:44 schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > > > ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: > >> Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition > >> has been based around the idea that these files are

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

2009-06-11 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 10.06.2009 um 21:44 schrieb Lars Wirzenius: > ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: >> Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition >> has been based around the idea that these files are somehow more >> important than, say, /bin/sh > > Putting the ker