Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zaterdag 28-02-2009 om 15:08 uur [tijdzone -0600], schreef Chris Cheney: > Pt is point which was defined long before computers came into wide use. > It was finally officially defined as 1/72 of an inch in 1959 but had > been in that general range of size since at least the 1700s. Actually, 1/72

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/28 12:38 (GMT+0100) Markus Hitter composed: > ... with resolution independent rendering, > ... "px" is just a measurement unit, > just like "in" or "mm". Once the software gets this, it's perfectly > fine for web developers to ask for a "12pt" font. No it won't, because pt, like

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/28 13:09 (GMT-0600) Ryan Hayle composed: > Here is what my 15.4" 1920x1200 screen looks like: > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23230352/Screenshot.png > http://launchpadlibrarian.net/23230847/bold%20font.jpg > I think I have perhaps been persuaded by the argument that the font size >

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/28 19:23 (GMT-0500) Mackenzie Morgan composed: > On Saturday 28 February 2009 5:12:11 pm Felix Miata wrote: >> Even if all existing systems had accurate DPI, web designers would still >> have no more business using pt for sizing web page text than they do px. >> They should only be usi

Re: Making Update Manager less obtrusive

2009-02-28 Thread Jan Claeys
Op vrijdag 27-02-2009 om 13:28 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Jordan Mantha: > Is there going to be *any* indicator that says "you have updates" > without actually launching a program? I just ran into a little > confusion as I popped open Synaptic to install something and was faced > with 139 update

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/28 19:21 (GMT+0100) Nicolò Chieffo composed: > Ok, I understood now. > Anyway the default look of ubuntu in my screen is really ugly. You'll have to define "ugly" in detail to get a meaningful response. > Is it possible to adapt the font to the screen DPI (automatically)? You'll have

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Saturday 28 February 2009 5:12:11 pm Felix Miata wrote: > Even if all existing systems had accurate DPI, web designers would still have > no more business using pt for sizing web page text than they do px. They > should only be using em to size text, with the option to size other things in > %

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/28 15:08 (GMT-0600) Chris Cheney composed: > Agreed that px should go away entirely in HTML > ... an abomination that it > was ever allowed into the HTML specification at all WRT fonts at least, HTML never had px. All HTML had and has for font sizing is em, though it isn't cal

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sat, 2009-02-28 at 12:38 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > This is likely all true, but with resolution independent rendering, > it no longer applies. In the future, "px" is just a measurement unit, > just like "in" or "mm". Once the software gets this, it's perfectly > fine for web developers

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Ryan Hayle
On 28/02/09 11:34, Nicolò Chieffo wrote: > I wanted to do a check. I booted the alpha 5 livecd on 2 laptops: > a 15.4" with 1280x800 > and my 14.1" with 1440x900 > > The result is strange, since the 2 laptops render the font in 2 different > ways. > > The first looks really good (and now I've unde

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Saturday 28 February 2009 6:38:04 am Markus Hitter wrote: > I can understand this is difficult to get swallowed. For 40 (or more) > years now, the rule was 1 pixel = 1 dot on the screen. A picture, > 100px x 100px in size used to use exactly 100 x 100 dots on screen. > Now, this is no long

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
Ok, I understood now. Anyway the default look of ubuntu in my screen is really ugly. Is it possible to adapt the font to the screen DPI (automatically)? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Felix Miata
On 2009/02/28 18:34 (GMT+0100) Nicolò Chieffo composed: > I wanted to do a check. I booted the alpha 5 livecd on 2 laptops: > a 15.4" with 1280x800 > and my 14.1" with 1440x900 > The result is strange, since the 2 laptops render the font in 2 different > ways. > The first looks really good (and

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Nicolò Chieffo
I wanted to do a check. I booted the alpha 5 livecd on 2 laptops: a 15.4" with 1280x800 and my 14.1" with 1440x900 The result is strange, since the 2 laptops render the font in 2 different ways. The first looks really good (and now I've understood why lots of people here are saying that the defau

QuitAppletPlus conclusion

2009-02-28 Thread Roman Friesen
The last status is, actually there aren't any plans to integrate the ideas from this project into the f-u-s-a (I contacted Ted Gould from Ubuntu Desktop Team directly, even though he finds some ideas interesting). I respect this decision surely. This project is completed from my point of view. If

Re: Default font size in gnome

2009-02-28 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 27.02.2009 um 19:29 schrieb Felix Miata: > On 2009/02/27 10:47 (GMT-0600) Ryan Hayle composed: > >> On 27/02/09 10:09, Chris Cheney wrote: > >>> Fortunately most web designers are smart enough not to use px for >>> fonts. > > I'm not so sure it's reached 50% yet, particularly for shopping