On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have heard people discuss post-release regressions due to SRU/security
> updates. I was chatting with another developer last night who said he'd
> found Hardy very stable at release and less so as it got updated.
>
> P
On Thursday 13 November 2008 22:43, Mackenzie Morgan wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 21:12 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > wrote:
> > >I haven't bothered trying to use the GUI with my iwl4965 and WEP. I
> > >just expe
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 21:12 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >I haven't bothered trying to use the GUI with my iwl4965 and WEP. I
> >just expect NM to not work when it comes to WEP.
>
> I have 4965 and it worked
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:48:40 +0100 Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Markus Hitter [2008-11-13 11:56 +0100]:
>> While we can't "fix" developers, we can put more automatic helpers
>> into place:
>>
>> - Keep Apport enabled even on stable releases. Hiding bugs doesn't
>> help.
>
>We don
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I haven't bothered trying to use the GUI with my iwl4965 and WEP. I
>just expect NM to not work when it comes to WEP.
I have 4965 and it worked fine for me with KNetworkManager and WEP in
Hardy. I have't had a nee
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 21:58 +0100, Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 20:36 +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
> >> Take the intel 3945 card, for example. Vincenzo says it doesn't work
> >> for him, under variou
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 21:58 +0100, Nicolas Deschildre wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 20:36 +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
> >> Take the intel 3945 card, for example. Vincenzo says it doesn't work
> >> for him, under variou
On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 20:36 +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
>> Take the intel 3945 card, for example. Vincenzo says it doesn't work
>> for him, under various modes. Various users on the forums have also
>> mentioned that the
Hi all , I've doned the asbestos pants
On an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 the symlink from /usr/bin/gcc
to /usr/bin/gcc-4.3 is not made.
on a clean install of 8.10 its made.
I verified it as well by reloading 8.04 and upgrading, and then do a
clean install of 8.10.
If I put that on the forums it wil
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 20:36 +1100, Sarah Hobbs wrote:
> Take the intel 3945 card, for example. Vincenzo says it doesn't work
> for him, under various modes. Various users on the forums have also
> mentioned that their systems don't work with these cards.
>
> However, other users on the forums, m
On Thursday 13 November 2008 05:13, Andrew Sayers wrote:
> Sarah - this should make sense on its own, but it builds on an idea I
> suggested in
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-November/006250
>.html
>
> which you might provide a little background to this post.
>
> > 3)
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 00:07 +, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote:
> There is an huge risk in running with proposed.
Well, "huge" might be overstating it a little bit
> Those who run with them enable, should be also tracking them on LP.
Thanks for the heads-up, but I know what I am doing :) I run p
2008/11/13 Andrew Sayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Stephan Hermann wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 11:56 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:
> >>
> >> - Allow downgrades. This should help narrowing potential causes of
> >> the trouble.
> >
> > This is something I don't understand.
> > When I upgrade to
Stephan Hermann wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 11:56 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:
>>
>> - Allow downgrades. This should help narrowing potential causes of
>> the trouble.
>
> This is something I don't understand.
> When I upgrade to a new release, I always think (or is it knowing): "Ok,
> fo
> Canonical does provide Support for Ubuntu for You, when you want to
> pay
> it. If not, fix it yourself, or help us fixing it e.g. join the irc
> and
> point people to it. If people can't help you directly, because of not
> having the broken hardware, you can try to provide this hardware to
> the
Hi Markus,
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 11:56 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote:
> Am 13.11.2008 um 10:32 schrieb Stephan Hermann:
>
> > But reality told me different.
>
> Stephan, your points about the unfortunate truth are valid.
Sad, but true.
> Nevertheless, software quality is one of the keys to succ
Markus Hitter [2008-11-13 11:56 +0100]:
> While we can't "fix" developers, we can put more automatic helpers
> into place:
>
> - Keep Apport enabled even on stable releases. Hiding bugs doesn't
> help.
We don't disable Apport in stable releases because we want to hide
bugs. The reasons are,
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:00:36 + Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>> If a distributor adds more goodies to the kernel, then be happy, but
>> that doesn't mean, that it really works...even when the distributor puts
>> the hardware on the list of supported hardware.
>>
>
>I hope this
Am 13.11.2008 um 10:32 schrieb Stephan Hermann:
> But reality told me different.
Stephan, your points about the unfortunate truth are valid.
Nevertheless, software quality is one of the keys to success.
I've just filed the second bug where one of the Gnome applets
segfaults in a standard si
Sarah - this should make sense on its own, but it builds on an idea I
suggested in
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-November/006250.html
which you might provide a little background to this post.
> 3) There are plenty of other hardware regressions by which I am affected
Apologies for breaking threading, i'm not subscribed to this list
anymore, as the S/N ratio was too low. However, this part is
interesting. Please CC me on any responses to this mail.
Vincenzo writes:
"2) Another bug affected me at random (WIFI), and there was nothing I
could do about that, and
Hi,
On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 09:00 +, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
> > If a distributor adds more goodies to the kernel, then be happy, but
> > that doesn't mean, that it really works...even when the distributor puts
> > the hardware on the list of supported hardware.
> >
>
> I hope this is not rea
> If a distributor adds more goodies to the kernel, then be happy, but
> that doesn't mean, that it really works...even when the distributor puts
> the hardware on the list of supported hardware.
>
I hope this is not really the idea of the ubuntu developers on this
topic, because if so, then I
2008/11/13 (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Olá Mario e a todos.
>
> ===snip===
>
> I never understood why the proposed rep is not pined down/back...
>
> --
> BUGabundo :o)
> (``-_-´´) http://LinuxNoDEI.BUGabundo.net
> Linux user #443786GPG key 1024D/A1784EBB
> My new micro-b
Moins,
On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 02:27 +, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
> On 11/11/2008 Scott Kitterman wrote:
> >
> > I would encourage you (and others, you certainly aren't the only one)
> > to hold
> > your temper and if you can't say something helpful, just take your
> > hands off
> > the keybo
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