Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Jan Claeys
Op woensdag 09-07-2008 om 10:16 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef Mackenzie Morgan: > Er, not really. You can't have FF2 and FF3 or IE6 and IE7 both > installed on Windows, or if it is somehow possible, it's certainly not > easy. It's not too difficult with Firefox AFAIK, but with IE it certainly is

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Pär Lidén
2008/7/10 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The important point is that a normal user should not need to hang out on > > forums, mailing list, LP, and so on, to know if the release is stable > enough > > to use. IMHO, it should be enough to see from the name if the release is > > ready-for-u

Re: Add Limewire to the Main respository.

2008-07-10 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 4:36 PM, ffm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Trevor Schauls wrote: >> >> Limewire is a very popular PTP sharing software. This is the license for >> it.http://wiki.limewire.org/index.php?title=Gnu > > Feel free to package it, but Frostwire does the same thing, and i

Re: Add Limewire to the Main respository.

2008-07-10 Thread Caroline Ford
2008/7/10 Trevor Schauls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Limewire is a very popular PTP sharing software. This is the license for > it.http://wiki.limewire.org/index.php?title=Gnu There is a long standing needs packaging bug on this application. Not all the source is available which is the stum

Re: Add Limewire to the Main respository.

2008-07-10 Thread ffm
Trevor Schauls wrote: Limewire is a very popular PTP sharing software. This is the license for it.http://wiki.limewire.org/index.php?title=Gnu Feel free to package it, but Frostwire does the same thing, and is community managed. Plus, just because something is poplular doens't me

Re: Xubuntu on PowerPC (ports)

2008-07-10 Thread Larry Cafiero
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:37 AM, Jim Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From my perspective, there are a couple of factors involved. Of course, > Macs aren't currently being shipped with PowerPC processors, so anyone > trying to run X/K/Ubuntu on a Mac is going to be running older hardware. >

Xubuntu on PowerPC (ports)

2008-07-10 Thread Jim Campbell
ntrepid/ports_daily failed to build on 20080710 mailed-by antimony.canonical.com = Syncing Xubuntu mirror = Thu Jul 10 18:13:01 BST 2008 = Building britney = Thu Jul 10 18:18:52 BST 2008 make: Entering directory `/srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/britney/update_out' make: Nothing to be do

Add Limewire to the Main respository.

2008-07-10 Thread Trevor Schauls
Limewire is a very popular PTP sharing software. This is the license for it.http://wiki.limewire.org/index.php?title=Gnu -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-d

Re: Xubuntu on PowerPC (ports)

2008-07-10 Thread Cody A.W. Somerville
> > Jim > > > [1] date Jul 10, 2008 12:18 PM > subject CD image xubuntu/intrepid/ports_daily failed to build on > 20080710 > mailed-by antimony.canonical.com > > = Syncing Xubuntu mirror = > Thu Jul 10 18:13:01 BST 2008 > = Building britney =

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 12:47 PM, Pär Lidén <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/7/10 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> To you, "LTS" may mean "so stable", but to another, it means that problems >> are actively fixed (which implies some change and therefore instability) >> even after release. > >

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Pär Lidén
2008/7/10 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > It is already documented, but most people file and respond to bugs without > reading the documentation (and why should they have to?). Perhaps the only > way to track regressions more accurately would be to represent them as > first-class data in La

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 10:15 +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: > The main point is that it is possible > (and easy) to install Firefox 3 on Windows XP (released 2001), while > try to install Firefox 3 on Dapper (released 2006). FWIW: download from firefox.com, unpack, run installer. Granted, it is no

How to add a config parameter into the kernel

2008-07-10 Thread Emre Can Sezer
Hi, I'm trying to modify the kernel and as I do so I realize that a compile time option would be best to include or exclude my modifications. I want to add a config option that would set a macro such as CONFIG_ECS. Which I can then use to replace some functions or add functionality to existing o

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 01:45:55PM +0200, Pär Lidén wrote: > 2008/7/8 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > There is a 'regression' tag, and we do try to prioritize these on an ad-hoc > > basis, but understand that with such incomplete information, it's difficult > > at best. > > Ok, I haven'

Re: Did we really release 8.04? - users as developers

2008-07-10 Thread Pär Lidén
> The first step is maybe to start taking in much higher account users > contributions. My experience is that patches can stay in launchpad for > months and in those cases it is entirely up to who contributed those to > bother people until they ack a fix. I am not talking about my often > blind one

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Pär Lidén
2008/7/8 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > There is a 'regression' tag, and we do try to prioritize these on an ad-hoc > basis, but understand that with such incomplete information, it's difficult > at best. Ok, I haven't seen that tag, even on bug bugs where users explicitly say that is has

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Denis Washington
You may be interested in the "LSB Package API" discussion on the Linux Standard Base's packaging mailing list. https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/packaging/2008-June/000732.html Regards, Denis Washington On Thu, 2008-07-10 at 11:47 +0300, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > I think resume of a

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 10:13:00AM +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: > 2008/7/9 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > As far as I'm aware, Windows provides no tools or infrastructure to make > > this easier. It is completely up to the ISV how their software is > > installed, and many of them detec

LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Peteris Krisjanis
I think resume of all this is very clear - avoid regressions at any costs. You don't need two versions of OO.o if newest one works as old one (except bugs of course) and features works as they supposed to be. All this can be achieved with careful testing (using spec-like test cases) and spotlighti

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Krzysztof Lichota
2008/7/9 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:47 AM, Krzysztof Lichota <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> It is a lot of effort, but if we want to compete with Windows, which >> makes it possible (and easy), it should be done. > > Er, not really. You can't have FF2 and FF3 o

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-10 Thread Krzysztof Lichota
2008/7/9 Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, Jul 09, 2008 at 09:47:56AM +0200, Krzysztof Lichota wrote: >> It is a lot of effort, but if we want to compete with Windows, which >> makes it possible (and easy), it should be done. > > As far as I'm aware, Windows provides no tools or infrast