Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:39 AM, Luke L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Full disclosure: I only tried Banshee once, briefly, and it was buggy > as Hell. Memory aside, Exaile should be looked at. I don't know about > its iPod support, though. I was a Banshee user for about 9 months or so. That end

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Luke L
I was going to suggest Exaile, but at the moment it has a memory leak that gets worse as it plays more music (it was taking up 800 MB!). I know that I do not like Rhythmbox's layout or playlist functionality. I like Amarok better than RB, but Ama doesn't detect my media keys on my laptop like RB do

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread macoafi
On 6/8/08, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >>> There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over >>> Rhythmbox: >>> 1) Complete iPod support (

Re: making deals with MS

2008-06-08 Thread Richard A. Johnson
On Sunday 08 June 2008, Jonathan Jesse wrote: [...] | I personally know Nixternal and know that his love of MS is a big joke. Is | the whole bot response on IRC the problem? It's true! I am a Micro$py and my secret lover is Ballmer, and when he isn't lookin' then it's Gates! With that said, ta

Re: making deals with MS

2008-06-08 Thread Jonathan Jesse
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Nergar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dear Mark Fink > > I would like you to reconsider your concept of Open Source and the > reason why you are using Linux. You don't seem to understand the > philosophy behind free software. > > Foss is all about choice so if you don

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Darren Albers
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:44 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >> I have never been able to get Rythmbox to update my iPod nor my wifes. > > Then please file a bug. > >> The Rhythmbox webpage only says it can read from iPods and oth

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 15:20 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > I have never been able to get Rythmbox to update my iPod nor my wifes. Then please file a bug. > The Rhythmbox webpage only says it can read from iPods and other > portable devices nothing about writing. From http://www.gnome.org/projects

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Darren Albers
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Evan Dandrea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: >> There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: >> 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) > > No. Rhythmbox

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Chandru
No Banshee by default please. Apart from Mono dependencies, its memory consumption is much higher than Rhythmbox and Audio players are always run in the background when the user is actually doing some other work on the system. Wasting RAM on media player is not a good idea. Apart from that, RB i

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Evan Dandrea
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 14:43 -0400, Darren Albers wrote: > There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhythmbox: > 1) Complete iPod support (Rythmbox only supports reading from iPods) No. Rhythmbox can write to iPods just fine. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: > Since F-Spot is installed by default Mono is now part of the base > install. So outside of all the debate around Mono, have we considered > installing Banshee as the default media player in Intrepid now that > Banshee 1.0 is released

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 15:02 -0400 schrieb Evan: > On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > 5) Built-in support for last.fm > > There is a rhythmbox plugin for this included in the default Hardy > install. If rhythmbox is kept, perhaps there should

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Caroline Ford
2008/6/8 Sebastian Breier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: >> If we use Banshee we can get rid of Sound Juicer and gain iPod support >> out of the box. If we use Banshee we can say to people: "Yes, your >> iPod or other digital music player wil

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Evan
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 2:43 PM, Darren Albers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5) Built-in support for last.fm There is a rhythmbox plugin for this included in the default Hardy install. If rhythmbox is kept, perhaps there should be a look at enabling it by default. Evan -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss ma

Re: Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Sonntag, den 08.06.2008, 14:43 -0400 schrieb Darren Albers: > If we use Banshee we can get rid of Sound Juicer and gain iPod support > out of the box. If we use Banshee we can say to people: "Yes, your > iPod or other digital music player will work out of the box. Just > plug it in and go."

Banshee by default in Intrepid

2008-06-08 Thread Darren Albers
Since F-Spot is installed by default Mono is now part of the base install. So outside of all the debate around Mono, have we considered installing Banshee as the default media player in Intrepid now that Banshee 1.0 is released? There are a couple of positives to using Banshee by default over Rhy

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Chandru
I guess Novell has some sort of protection through the deal. Because from what I had read somewhere, there was no mention of Mono in deals wiht others like Linspire and Xandros but the Novell deal did mention it. And I have the same doubt as you. Especially the non-ecma parts like Mono's impleme

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Milosz Derezynski
Sorry for dropping in. Has there been any mention of Microsoft that they will never, ever sue anyone who uses Mono nor the Mono developers themselves, or is this all under the Novell/Microsoft convenant? If they never made such a statement, on what else than pure hope that they will never litigate

Customized CD

2008-06-08 Thread Alexandre Conrad
Hi, I'm not sure I'm on the correct list here. I'm trying to setup a customized CD for future installations on a large number of computers. During the installation, I'll have no network, so I can only depend on CD. Basicly, I: - copied the original Xubuntu CD on disk - added a preseed file und

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Chandru
Yup much better!! But it is more than an year. :D Also, Java has a much more evolved open-source ecosystem around it. All those extremely high quality Apache projects. Of course, Java tops among Sourceforge projects too. It is really unfortunate that Hardy is not shipping with Java. But yes

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sun, 2008-06-08 at 22:31 +0530, Chandru wrote: > No Java is not in the same boat as .Net. There is no open-source > version of .Net released by Microsoft. OK, fine, it's in the same boat that Java was in a year ago. Better? -- Mackenzie Morgan http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com apt

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Chandru
No Java is not in the same boat as .Net. There is no open-source version of .Net released by Microsoft. .Net as a framework is still a proprietary product of Microsoft. They are letting Mono survive only because of their Embrace, Extend and Extinguish scheme. Not so with Java. There is an offi

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Mackenzie Morgan
On Sat, 2008-06-07 at 21:50 -0400, Mark Fink wrote: > > The problem I have with Canonical making deals with M$ is that it > means that M$ gets to collect a tax from FLOSS. It also opens the door > for Ubuntu itself to become even more tainted by M$ crap than it > already is (MONO). > > Roy Schest

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Sebastian Breier
Am Samstag, den 07.06.2008, 19:04 -0400 schrieb Mark Fink: > I just read this article: > http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/ > > I hope this is wrong or I will have to stop using ubuntu and find > another distro to use. Such a shame... > > Hope you are all proud of yourselves

Re: making deals with MS

2008-06-08 Thread Nergar
Dear Mark Fink I would like you to reconsider your concept of Open Source and the reason why you are using Linux. You don't seem to understand the philosophy behind free software. Foss is all about choice so if you don't like it here you can very well use OpenBSD or anything else, but you *NEVER*

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread David "Lefty" Schlesinger
Martin Owens wrote: > > I wish people would talk about issues instead of technical solutions > or flaming some mis-informed guy. Anyone care to? Sure. I'd like to talk about the issue of people who interpret the word "free" to mean "the way I personally demand that things be"... -- Ubuntu-devel

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Albin Tonnerre
On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 10:12:18PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote : > On Saturday 07 June 2008 21:53:10 Mark Fink wrote: > > > just because I'm not a programmer doesn't mean my opinion isn't worth > > as much or more than yours ... > > Forgot to respond to this point ... > > Actually it does, sort

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-08 Thread Luke L
I don't see what the problem is to solving his dilemma. Whining and moaning every time someone's binary is placed into code is ridiculous. Ubuntu still leaves plenty of space and SUPPORT for FULLY OPEN platforms, such as Gobuntu, working with gNewSense, the F6 option at install-time, etc. It is not