Re: +1 maintenance report

2023-05-26 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 09:40:02AM -0700, Simon Chopin wrote: > See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-gio/+bug/2020880 > See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-graphene-sys/+bug/2020902 Thanks for tagging these update-excuse! -- Steve Langasek G

NBS kernel removals: round two

2023-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
week. I will leave xenial as-is for the moment, and send further mail before making any changes to NBS packages there. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Deve

Re: NBS kernel removals: round two

2023-06-01 Thread Steve Langasek
lings for removals of generic & lts-xenial kernels. Thanks for pointing this out, I naively assumed that we had rebuilt d-i in trusty against the last kernels published there before moving to ESM. I've locally implemented a stay of execution for the above kernel package versions. -- Steve L

Re: +1 maintenance report

2023-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
dy ignores tests relying on mongodb server. So it should expand the > ignore list. > > Patch https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022332, forwarded to > https://bugs.debian.org/1037035 Uploaded. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free

git-ubuntu build

2023-06-07 Thread Steve Langasek
t repository *and* apt source the package is meh) - getting the correct options to dpkg-buildpackage by hand for a package merge is tedious; this automates -v and -sa arguments. Enjoy, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

debcheckout -a behavior in Ubuntu?

2023-06-08 Thread Steve Langasek
as the wrong metadata gets fixed - ideally, by grafting the repo history into the git-ubuntu repos and then dropping the stale Vcs-* fields. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to se

Re: Symbols files for C++ libraries for Ubuntu main

2023-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
n't speak for the MIR team, I have no objection to them relaxing the requirement of .symbols files for C++ libraries in main. Just offering some suggestions on how we can do a better job of automating C++ ABI checks than we're doing today. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek

Re: git-ubuntu MPs in the sponsorship queue

2023-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
through, or you're *not* taking it out of the queue and then you also don't need to be listed as a separate approver. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu De

Re: git-ubuntu build

2023-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 09:27:47PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 06:41:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > As git-ubuntu sees increasing use, including for such things as requests for > > sponsorship of Debian merges, I've had an itch to s

Re: git-ubuntu build

2023-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
gt; PS: one improvement for gu-build would be to print to stdout the various > steps it goes through; a full, clean and pretty implementation is > probably fairly difficult but a crude one that is ~60% enough would > probably a matter of minutes. Any objections to this being under a -

+1 maintenance report

2023-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
an. * `ruby-jekyll-github-metadata`: more network-based tests. Disabled in debian/ruby-tests.rake, uploaded, forwarded to Debian. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Devel

Re: NBS kernel removals: round two

2023-06-13 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 12:55:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi folks, > Well, we found out that removing all NBS kernel packages for stable series > was not altogether without its problems for users. We have modified the > removal policy going forward in response to feedback.

breezy behavior wrt lp: [Was Re: git-ubuntu build]

2023-06-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 03:29:11PM +0200, Paride Legovini wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote on 13/06/2023: > > This is the following in my ~/.gitconfig: > > [url "git+ssh://vor...@git.launchpad.net/"] > > insteadof = lp: > > This configur

Re: git-ubuntu build

2023-06-15 Thread Steve Langasek
mend to developers for the current setup. Buy-in and adoption of git-ubuntu as a tool is a necessary precondition for us getting away from working with source packages, so in my view we have to approach this incrementally. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever lo

+1 maintenance report: the reportening

2023-06-16 Thread Steve Langasek
e new `r-base`, but this makes clear which ones those are. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://

Re: git-ubuntu MP workflows in Launchpad

2023-06-29 Thread Steve Langasek
member reviewer as Robie proposes, but to filter out any MPs from the sponsorship queue which have a negative review from a sponsor, and no further activity on the MP (either comments or commits) after that point. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian

Re: git-ubuntu MP workflows in Launchpad

2023-06-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:55:21PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 02:36:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > I think the least-effort approach is for the handling of MPs for sponsorship > > to match the handling of bugs: ~ubuntu-sponsors is unsubscribed, a

Re: +1 maintenance report

2023-07-05 Thread Steve Langasek
an build needs to be adjusted for > this. > I have proposed a PR to fix this in Ubuntu, and forwarded to Debian. Looks like this has been sponsored. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and

Re: Reducing initramfs size and speed up the generation

2023-07-08 Thread Steve Langasek
o archive. > > > > The drawback is that building the kernel would take longer, the package > > takes more space on the archive and mirrors, and downloading them could > > take longer on slow connections. > > > > Implementing my proposal would be relati

Re: Reducing initramfs size and speed up the generation

2023-07-09 Thread Steve Langasek
> Will the user still be able to add further modules and will machine specific > configuration files (e.g. for booting from iSCSI) still be included into the > initrd? I think a robust implementation of this on the initramfs-tools side looks like: - identify all the contents that belong

Re: Drop armhf for ovn package

2023-07-16 Thread Steve Langasek
e but a more lightweight process is to ask on #ubuntu-release on IRC for an archive admin to remove the binaries in such cases. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Reducing initramfs size and speed up the generation

2023-07-21 Thread Steve Langasek
pendencies is not an improvement! I understand the reason for being concerned about keeping uncompressed firmware available is that not all kernels have support for compressed firmware. However we should work out a path that lets us switch to compressed firmware on releases where we know it'

Re: Reducing initramfs size and speed up the generation

2023-07-21 Thread Steve Langasek
he zstd support onto jammy's 5.15 kernel. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/

Re: Reducing initramfs size and speed up the generation

2023-07-21 Thread Steve Langasek
or should remain unchanged for existing kernel+firmware packages, and it's therefore safe to push more widely. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ub

Re: Duplicate Requests in autopkgtest-cloud

2023-07-27 Thread Steve Langasek
work > seamlessly but always expect the unexpected right :) Does the code also properly distinguish between tests queued with proposed=1 and those without, so that it's possible to queue both ways in parallel? Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and

Re: +1 maintenance report

2023-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
o be present as build-time deps). So this is a very common pattern for rust packages. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Duplicate Requests in autopkgtest-cloud

2023-07-29 Thread Steve Langasek
the duplicate request check is > disabled. I made this quick change to unblock ginggs Excellent, thank you! > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 5:19 AM Steve Langasek > wrote: > > > Hi Tim, > > > > On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:10:05AM +0100, Tim Andersson wrote: > > >

Re: Flutter Installer and CUPS Frustrations

2023-08-10 Thread Steve Langasek
/ubuntu-23.10 980 $ Evidently there is something different in the way desktop-common is being handled for Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio, that it's not being seeded there. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set i

Re: +1 maintenance shift (07/AUG - 11/AUG)

2023-08-11 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Andreas, On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 06:40:16PM -0300, Andreas Hasenack wrote: > canonistack isn't an option. Why? Do we need to open RTs? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move t

Re: Reducing initramfs size and speed up the generation

2023-08-11 Thread Steve Langasek
s this property that we haven't tampered with the last-known-good kernel and makes the system less resilient. We should prioritize resilience of boot recovery over reducing the size of /boot contents. Cheers, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS

Re: +1 maintenance report (14/Aug - 18/Aug)

2023-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
* tests on armhf will have more memory available than on other architectures. But that memory is also shared across tests, so "noisy neighbor" effect is more of a problem. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: +1 maintenance report (14/Aug - 18/Aug)

2023-08-21 Thread Steve Langasek
tarting point for someone to create a doc that distills this for just the Ubuntu architectures. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

+1 maintenance, please look at NBS [Was: +1 maintenance report (Week of 2023-08-21)]

2023-08-31 Thread Steve Langasek
Please keep the NBS report in mind as well: https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/nbs.html There has not been much progress on this list for roughly a month, and there are lots of packages here needing active attention of the kind that would not be blocked by a glibc migration :) Thank

Re: First Mantic Minotaur test rebuild

2023-09-13 Thread Steve Langasek
nd if they don't have a versioned Depends: for some reason, it should be sufficient to manually add one. There had previously been mention on IRC of declaring Breaks: between libc6 and the packages. However, having thought this through just now I believe that's unnecessary, and also does

Re: First Mantic Minotaur test rebuild

2023-09-13 Thread Steve Langasek
s files. I would recommend simply dropping them rather than marking them optional, since if they come back again that indicates a DIFFERENT problem. If you need something upstreamable to Debian, then you'll need to mark them optional since Debian unstable is still on glibc 2.37. -- Steve Lang

Re: Migrating to deb822 sources on upgrade to Mantic

2023-09-19 Thread Steve Langasek
> classic sources.list, you should be able to do so with: > $ cp /etc/apt/sources.list{.distUpgrade,} > $ rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources Is this entry in the mantic release notes still accurate? * add-apt-repository now adds PPAs as deb822 .sources files (Improvements to PPA ma

Re: Retention period for autopkgtest test logs

2023-09-25 Thread Steve Langasek
facilitate Ubuntu development, for things not yet landed in the main archive. It certainly shouldn't be used for long-lived PPAs whose contents are not targeted for inclusion in Ubuntu. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: Retention period for autopkgtest test logs

2023-09-26 Thread Steve Langasek
ransfer to the main archive and all have to be run again, and it's the second run that actually matters for proposed-migration. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the

Re: Retention period for autopkgtest test logs

2023-09-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 06:38:06PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 04:53:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:22:59PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote: > > > Moreover, there are other use cases beyond test failure fixing. >

Re: dropping various grub targets

2023-10-10 Thread Steve Langasek
El-Torito ISO boot support treating these images as only for flashing on USB drives. It would remove one significant barrier for us adopting ubuntu-image for the mastering of our installer images. But we should do the work to establish that these things are no longer needed! -- Steve Langasek

Re: dropping various grub targets

2023-10-11 Thread Steve Langasek
the thread together. > On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 at 00:13, Steve Langasek > wrote: > > To be clear, it would make a lot of things easier if we did determine we > > could drop not only BIOS boot support from our images, but also El-Torito > > ISO boot support treating these

Re: Fetching source code in Ubuntu: apt source, pull-lp-source, and git-ubuntu

2023-10-16 Thread Steve Langasek
ew field for this. If we are going to change the Sources file at all, the existing "Vcs-Git" field already has the correct semantics. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the worl

Merge ubuntu-motu@lists into ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists?

2023-10-17 Thread Steve Langasek
, maybe a few others?). I'd therefore like to propose we close this mailing list and forward the address on to ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com, which at least has a larger subscriber base and is more likely to result in users getting help with their questions. Opinions? -- Steve Langas

Re: Merge ubuntu-motu@lists into ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists?

2023-11-25 Thread Steve Langasek
l) and the volunteer > support in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-next would not be too keen to lose that one. > But, again, that's a discussion to be had with the IRC council. What would be the process for asking #ubuntu-motu to be closed/redirected? -- Steve Langasek Give me a

Re: Running Britney locally against a PPA, how to keep Britney from thinking my PPA package is in main?

2023-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
on, but I have > absolutely no clue how I would go about doing this, and suspect it's not > even possible. It is not possible. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world

Re: Running Britney locally against a PPA, how to keep Britney from thinking my PPA package is in main?

2023-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
smoothly as possible. We typically wouldn't even do a +really upload, but instead just remove the broken version from -proposed. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, a

NBS kernel removals: round three

2023-12-10 Thread Steve Langasek
need to be retained because 16.04.7 was an update only for UEFI architectures (amd64 and arm64). I am planning to start removing the other NBS kernels from xenial this coming Friday, December 15. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: NBS kernel removals: round three

2023-12-19 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 05:22:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Removing obsolete NBS kernels from trusty as described in June [1] went > without any problems being reported. > I am therefore planning to proceed with the same cleanup now of NBS kernels > from xenial-{updates,sec

Re: NBS kernel removals: round three

2024-01-05 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 08:20:04AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 05:22:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > Removing obsolete NBS kernels from trusty as described in June [1] went > > without any problems being reported. > > I am therefore plannin

Re: Is there a good solution for this: release-upgrade with dependency moved to universe

2024-01-15 Thread Steve Langasek
etween releases, and the release upgrade is the time for the user to discover this is the case and deal with it (as part of a maintenance window). Otherwise, you're really just shifting the pain. Ubuntu X went EOL, I have to reinstall, I install Ubuntu X+1 which is what I had installed before,

Re: libgcrypt20 delta now dropped

2024-01-16 Thread Steve Langasek
nd we are dropping the patch, it would seem to have the opposite effect to what you've written. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: +1 maintenance report

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Langasek
e locally but it fails to > build on LP due to dh_missing complaining. Are you using up-to-date debhelper on noble? There have been recent changes in debhelper's handling of systemd units, precisely for the /lib vs /usr/lib question. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever

Re: git-ubuntu MP workflows in Launchpad

2024-02-16 Thread Steve Langasek
eded: > https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+git/ubuntu-helpers/tree/rbasak/clear-review-slot.py Please submit this to ubuntu-dev-tools :-) Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.

Re: early +1 maintenance: jupyter-notebook FTBFS, jupyter-client update ahead of debian

2024-02-19 Thread Steve Langasek
n you verify that the previous version of the package in Ubuntu builds in noble? See also https://bugs.debian.org/1059658 -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: help needed -- fixing hard-coded dependencies on shared library packages

2024-03-23 Thread Steve Langasek
the Debian bug tracker. > > Thanks, Matthias > > -- > ubuntu-devel mailing list > ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enou

Re: pastebinit default target on Ubuntu

2024-04-15 Thread Steve Langasek
ile, and I don't like this pointing to a service we don't control. And if there are issues with the usability of paste.ubuntu.com, uh, we own that service? So let's work with our IS team to make it fit for purpose. (I don't know why it currently requires a login to *view* pas

Re: pastebinit default target on Ubuntu

2024-04-15 Thread Steve Langasek
uiring authentication on the SUBMISSION side is sufficient reason to change the default pastebin, then that of course isn't something we should second-guess; we don't need to be reinvesting anonymous ftp servers. But in that case, I think there should have been a discussion about who the de

Re: pastebinit default target on Ubuntu

2024-04-24 Thread Steve Langasek
ted while logged in can be viewed > anonymously and a paste created anonymously (e.g. by pastebinit, which I > don't think supports logging in?) requires a login to view. Ok, I was unaware of this nuance. That being the case, I don't think "login required" is a soun

Re: Can we collaborate with Debian better?

2024-05-05 Thread Steve Langasek
I would consider this. It would require an actual SRU process for mrbuild, since that package has other reverse-build-dependencies in noble (libdogleg, mrgingham, vnlog) which should not be allowed to regress; but provided there is a proper SRU test case to assert this, I think it's a sensib

Re: Can we collaborate with Debian better?

2024-05-07 Thread Steve Langasek
are removed from > > Ubuntu. > I think that would be a very good policy, actually. You *personally* think that there should be such a policy. Many other Debian maintainers would be very angry to receive such notifications. And we currently don't have any mechanism for such not

ubuntu-dev-tools and `ubuntu-build`

2024-05-16 Thread Steve Langasek
list is: was anyone using this script, and if so, are you attached to the non-"batch" mode? If not, I would like to make the "batch" mode the mode, dropping the requirement for the --batch argument. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS De

Re: Make proposed available by default? [was: Setting NotAutomatic for hirsute+1-proposed]

2024-06-03 Thread Steve Langasek
would certainly be prioritized accordingly. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer https://www.debian.org/ s

Re: +1 Maintenance Report

2024-07-10 Thread Steve Langasek
is to remove those packages from the archive and > reintroduce them once the `ruby-rack` v3 transition is completely > finished. The main issue with this is that we have no way to track when such packages should be re-added. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek

Re: many systemd units failing in oracular LXD containers

2024-07-26 Thread Steve Langasek
est/edge for LXD. I confirmed the fix myself just now. We don't deploy from latest/edge in production, nor should we. Do we have an ETA for when this will land in the stable channels for LXD that are used by default in the Ubuntu LTSes? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever

Re: +1 maintenance report - 2024 week 31

2024-08-13 Thread Steve Langasek
#x27;s not really consistent with the schema we use in Ubuntu. I've moved these packages to multiverse altogether (source and binary). -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the w

+1 maintenance report

2024-09-09 Thread Steve Langasek
e less locked memory available than on other archs, due to a kernel difference. Provided a partial patch to let tests be skipped when locked memory can't be allocated, but one test still fails. Uploaded, and forwarded the patch to Debian. https://bugs.debian.org/1081220.

Re: +1 maintenance report

2024-09-09 Thread Steve Langasek
ests (rationale is in the bug report): > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nield/+bug/2079349 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glosstex/+bug/2079355 Removed. > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sslh/+bug/2079513 Follow-up question added. -- Steve Langasek

Re: ari-tczew to be excluded from Ubuntu community

2011-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
are interested. > > This would increase transparency within the project without causing any > > affect > > on the individual's reputation outside Ubuntu. > +1 for this idea. > Do we have something similar to debian-private in Ubuntu? God forbid :p -- Steve Langasek

Re: ari-tczew to be excluded from Ubuntu community

2011-04-08 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 05:24:17PM -0400, Paul Tagliamonte wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:19 PM, Loïc Minier wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 08, 2011, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> > Do we have something similar to debian-private in Ubuntu? > >> God forbid :p > >

Re: Why do we strip server binaries?

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Langasek
oesn't know > about them. So why doesn't oprofile know about them? Detached symbols files are pretty much The Way It's Done now; shouldn't oprofile be fixed to understand them? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS De

Re: systemd for 11.10 ?

2011-05-09 Thread Steve Langasek
term gains of stasis, not to > mention the ability to leverage some technology knowledge from one distro > to the next. Very few, after all, enjoy the luxury of having to deal with > only one distribution. I think the paragraph above is a very good summary of one of the arg

Re: systemd for 11.10 ?

2011-05-09 Thread Steve Langasek
k an init system change, which touches every single package that's involved with system startup and requires changes across a very broad set of foundations, desktop, and server packages. And for what? Why are we eager to invest that time in switching to something which, contrary to t

Re: systemd for 11.10 ?

2011-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
introduces support for job override files that can be updated without need to modify the .conf files on disk, if that's the actual concern here.) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and

Re: systemd for 11.10 ?

2011-05-11 Thread Steve Langasek
n be started or stopped when appropriate, with or without gdm. That is a stark departure from existing Unix convention, and not something that we should jump on board without due diligence. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer

Re: systemd for 11.10 ?

2011-05-12 Thread Steve Langasek
equently. That's what happens *today*. But cgroups are an entirely new interface in the kernel that in systemd explicitly prevents that from happening. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set

[j...@licquia.org: [lsb-discuss] Call for Participation: FHS Relaunch]

2011-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
ntu's needs are represented in the standards process. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.o

Re: Measuring success/failure in the installation

2011-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
#x27;t do the converse to ascertain anything about the experience of the unengaged users by looking at the results from more heavily engaged users. > This is something that is a significant change that should be reviewed and > approved by the Tech Board and possibly the CC. I think it'

Re: Enabling the kernel's DMESG_RESTRICT feature

2011-05-25 Thread Steve Langasek
ug a Network Manager problem on a system that uses network-based authentication, not being in the adm group means I have to wait for network timeouts before I can look at the logs to figure out what I need to do to fix my network! I'd much rather we find a way to fix it so the information *log

Re: We need more bitesize bugs

2011-05-31 Thread Steve Langasek
hem. One concern I have is that we not wind up with bugs open at release time that we *would* have fixed if we had not set them aside as bitesized bugs. Should we target these bugs to 11.10-beta, so that we make sure to round up any that are still outstanding at that point? -- Steve Langasek

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-03 Thread Steve Langasek
es as many times as there > were target suites. To upload to both Debian and Ubuntu, it would also have to pass different options since Ubuntu accepts only source uploads and Debian does not accept source-only uploads. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and

Re: "Ubuntu Packaging Guide"

2011-06-06 Thread Steve Langasek
to know more?" links available for them to drill down into; and if more documentation needs to be added, it should be added on the individual detail pages. I think the Ubuntu Packaging Guide represents a great opportunity for this kind of refactoring to take place. I don't get

Re: shrinking the desktop DVD image to 1.5GB

2011-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
Pros: - shorter livefs build time - shorter install time - potentially *reusable* squashfs image, that can be extended for new locales just by dropping it on a new ISO including a different package repo Is this worth exploring? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and

Re: shrinking the desktop DVD image to 1.5GB

2011-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 08:36:30PM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: > Steve Langasek [2011-06-09 10:49 -0700]: > > Is there any reason that they have to be in the squashfs image to get that > > effect? I know that's how it's architected today, but would it actually be > >

Re: shrinking the desktop DVD image to 1.5GB

2011-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
ases, ubiquity would grab the langpacks from the pool and > install them. I would presume that by the time ubiquity enters the picture, the packages are already installed in the live environment, so it just needs to not /remove/ them... -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long eno

Re: shrinking the desktop DVD image to 1.5GB

2011-06-09 Thread Steve Langasek
emory kills in > the live environment by installing just a few megs of packages. Ah; that's not a very nice choice to present the user with then. "Would you like to run in a language you don't speak very well, or would you like an OOM?" :/ -- Steve Langasek

Re: Getting rid of alignment faults in userspace

2011-06-17 Thread Steve Langasek
ocess. If this can be sanely togglable on ARM at runtime, it would be keen to use the same interface on this arch. HTH, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: Default libjpeg-dev in oneiric

2011-07-29 Thread Steve Langasek
out. Micah, will you upload the necessary change? (Sooner better than later, so we don't drift too much while libjpeg8-dev is the default?) -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world.

Re: The Packaging Guide Needs Your Help

2011-08-10 Thread Steve Langasek
to document all possible ways that packages can be put together, thus leaving would-be developers with no guidance about how packages *should* be put together, and it's my fervent hope that the packaging guide will avoid this trap. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever

Re: SRUs for typo fixes in descriptions

2011-08-11 Thread Steve Langasek
dling these kinds of issues. We should be sensitive to the gratuitous-update problem, but we should weigh this against the very real benefits of being better able to fix the bugs affecting our users. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Develop

Re: IBus related issues

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Langasek
/+source/ibus-anthy/+bug/829876 > Need Build-dep change > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozc/+bug/829907 I haven't had a chance to look at these yet, but I will if nobody else beats me to them. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Deb

Re: Multiarch in Oneiric for developers

2011-08-26 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi David, On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:00:38AM +0200, David Henningsson wrote: > On 2011-08-16 20:46, Steve Langasek wrote: > >As part of the work to eliminate ia32-libs in favor of multiarch library > >installation > >(https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundat

Re: Five build fixes a day

2011-09-13 Thread Steve Langasek
m for partial upgrades. So while I'm still pretty ambivalent about 'ld --as-needed' as the way to fix this, I don't think this issue is less important in Debian than it is in Ubuntu - and I would be surprised if the Debian release team or Debian buildd team disagree. Cheers, --

Re: proposal do disallow syncs of library packages from experimental without approval

2011-10-05 Thread Steve Langasek
to fix up the many build failures among the reverse-dependencies - including of honeyd, which is by the *same upstream author* as libevent and had not been ported to the new libevent API (and won't be any time soon). In the end this was resolved by introducing a new source package for the prev

Re: Reevaluating the "Ubuntu Contributing Developer" status

2011-10-06 Thread Steve Langasek
;m not sure if the difference to "Ubuntu Developers" will be clear > enough just from the team name. The current name is *definitely* not clear. If a human-readable name is needed, I would strongly recommend either "Ubuntu Development Members" or "Ubuntu D

Re: libvigraimpex

2011-10-19 Thread Steve Langasek
es or re-apply the > Ubuntu deltas. Doing that after the sync completes still appears to be > easier than trying to do a merge. Note that the MIRs go beyond hdf5 itself; hdf5 has build-dependencies on mpich, lam, openmpi and mpi-defaults, all of which are in universe. Personally I wouldn&#

multiarch in 12.04: the home stretch for ia32-libs, help requested

2011-10-22 Thread Steve Langasek
mba-common:i386 (= 2:3.5.11~dfsg-2ubuntu2) but it is not installable Depends: lsb-base:i386 (>= 3.0-6) but it is not installable Conflicts: winbind but 2:3.5.11~dfsg-2ubuntu2 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have hel

Re: multiarch in 12.04: the home stretch for ia32-libs, help requested

2011-10-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 01:53:50PM +1100, Luke Yelavich wrote: > On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 06:13:40AM EST, Steve Langasek wrote: > > pulseaudio-utils (ia32-libs only needs /usr/lib/libpulsedsp.so). > I'm happy to take care of this one, but since libpulsedsp.so is not a true &g

Re: data.tar.xz support added to Launchpad

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Langasek
oothed-combing of the merge delta, and, when all else fails, that's what the archive check is there for. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer

Re: data.tar.xz support added to Launchpad

2011-10-25 Thread Steve Langasek
ded to give smooth LTS->LTS upgrades. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developerhttp://www.debian.org/ slanga...@ubuntu.com

Re: Adding a feature to enable a third party repository to an application

2011-10-26 Thread Steve Langasek
ly question. I've just registered a blueprint about the security problems of how we handle third-party packages today: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-p-security-of-third-party-debs There will be a session to discuss this at UDS next week. Is t

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