On 20/08/13 14:30, Martin Pitt wrote:
> For the record, I cannot reproduce the glmark2 crash on my intel laptop
> (ThinkPad X201, Arrandale) with today's saucy Mir system compositor, I
> ran it three times.
Ah, interesting. I will do a ppa-purge and try again, thanks Martin!
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This is surprising to me too, I'll ask around for the rationale.
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Feedback from engineers is that this is a regression caused by changes
in Gtk, not a desired or planned outcome. It's on the list now, patches
welcome if someone here wants to dig in.
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We can't ask people to install a new kernel to get one part of LXD. That
might work for 17.10, but not this soon after 16.04.
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Superstars, thank you :)
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I think it would be acceptable, for now, if (a) the zed init script
avoided starting in containers, and (b) there were an /etc/default/zed
which enabled one to disable zed altogether. Would that cause a problem
for people creating their first pool, where their docs expect zed to be
running?
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Right, the only issue is how to address the legitimate concerns of
people not using ZFS. Ideally, we'd be:
* detecting the need for it on boot and starting it if relevant
* also starting it whenever a zpool is created
This way, it's there whenever you need it, otherwise not. I'm pretty
sure the
Good catch, thank you for the report Thibaut.
tag: shell
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stash? cache? unmanaged?
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Sounds reasonable, Fabian, thank you.
** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => High
** Changed in: snapd (Ubuntu)
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Did you follow Fabian's guidance, Zygmunt?
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OK, thank you, this looks like a man page conflict between the SNAP DNA
sequencing system and snapd. Do you need both installed? Regardless we
should find a way to deconflict that.
status: triaged
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Thank you, good catch. It might be an idea to have a modified schema so
that names can just come from upstream but the distinction is still clear.
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Thanks for the report! Can you tell us the output of 'snap --version'
please?
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Just saw this on freshly updated Xenial. I think it's trying to be
helpful and tell me what PPAs a particular LP team has published, but in
the end it explodes:
$ sudo add-apt-repository ppa:juju/next
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/s
We definitely want snapd on 14.04 though so let's keep the bug open :)
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Yeah yeah patches welcome :p
Would it be sensible to have title be an optional field, and use the
Capitalized name if it is not provided? In the past, we've seen it's
hard to get complete and accurate metadata when there is a lot of
duplication in the schema.
And yes, appstream would be welcome.
Just to say, I think it makes sense that default swap behaviour should
be a core config element.
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Good point. Perhaps just fallback to name - uncapitalised - would be best.
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We have to be careful with new dependencies because those cause issues
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I think Robert is using 'name' in the 'primary key' sense, and 'title'
in the 'display name' sense.
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On 10/02/17 16:50, John Lenton wrote:
> I should point out that there isn't a clear 1:1 mapping between desktop
> files and apps, and that some of the things mentioned here would impose
> this.
>
> FWIW IMHO if gnome software needs to choose one app from a snap to run
> because of its own limitatio
The name field today is the best fallback, but it is obviously
unsatisfying ("ubuntu-personal-calculator") as primary keys don't make
nice human-friendly names.
I think what we want is a translatable displayname, and I would support
that, but Robert, why not just have this in the desktop file itse
OK. I have a feeling though that the apps: section is not ordered, which
means we need some other way to call out the "definitive" app for the
snap, i.e. the one which is represented in GNOME Software.
So it feels to me that we need:
* a way to associate desktop files with the apps in the snap (
IIRC, the idea was to capture the AppStream link in the store, and have
snapd query the store for that if asked? I'm happy to go forward with
that, no additional snap.yaml data needed.
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Hmm... my understanding of the intent was different.
You should get updates from devmode to devmode, and from devmode to
strict (safer), but you should not auto-update from strict to devmode or
classic.
I think it's a bug if that's not the current behavior, unless one of the
snapd core devs expla
Phew :)
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Just a heads-up that neither of those links worked for me.
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Here is our thinking on Ubuntu Core devices and user accounts.
Ubuntu Core is largely for devices that operate with almost no human
interaction. You install the device, it updates itself forever, life is
good.
In that case, most devices will not have many or any user accounts.
That's completely d
Yes, I've run into this challenge making snaps too.
The only question in my mind, though, is whether you don't actually want
to run a sanity check of config etc on every launch, anyway, to deal
with cases of corruption. What I did was sanity check config and restore
if needed (or recreate from a t
Will we have some sort of yaml representation of the desired NTP config,
rather than just "write access to the file"?
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That's right, but I think you want to do a slightly deeper analysis of
NTP config, and make sure that the schema you start with can evolve to
be more complete in future.
I think a list of timeservers is a fine starting point. I also think the
default behaviour should be to use a pool backed by ntp
OK, auto would make sense with your schema as well. off | servername |
ip | auto.
Good point on keeping ntp as a separate snap.
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That's the most unexpected error message, ever.
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\o/ can we now recommend folks to install snapd on Trusty?
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In the same way that we can provide multiple entries to /snap/bin/ it
makes sense to offer multiple .desktop files. Would that get you closer
to a great desktop experience?
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OK, I'm +1 with that unless you have another suggestion. Could we put
the desktop file as an entry under the app command? I.e.
apps:
foo:
desktop: path/to/file.desktop
command: bin/foo.py
One thing that seems awkward is the duplication of the command in the
desktop file and the apps sta
Is pruning expensive? Could we set a bound on the number of unsuccessful
transactions in the system and prune when that is reached? So the number
is bounded in time (3 days) and in length?
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Just saw this on update:
Preparing to unpack .../cups-daemon_2.1.3-4ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb ...
Job for cups.service canceled.
invoke-rc.d: initscript cups, action "stop" failed.
dpkg: warning: subprocess old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
dpkg: trying script fro
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This is in xenial-proposed, please block release to -updates accordingly
:)
ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
Package: cups-daemon 2.1.3-4
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NonfreeKernelModules: zfs zun
We'll struggle on :)
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We could have 'latest' as a psuedo-category, easily enough.
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Snap data is not expected to be accessed from $HOME anyway - each snap
will typically have its own way to display its own data. That's
certainly true on personal / convergence devices.
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It's in the 'Notes' column in 2.23, not sure if it was there in previous
versions.
mark@maas:~$ snap list
Name Version Rev Developer Notes
canonical-livepatch 721canonical -
conjure-up 2.1.1107 canonical classic
core 16-2 1337
Ah, I wonder if this is an interaction between a snap that asks for
classic mode, and a snap that gets TOLD to be in classic mode.
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Confirmed, I am seeing this everywhere that local fonts are being used.
I think it's a fontconfig or related regression.
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AIUI there a a few AppArmor patches that have not yet landed upstream,
for confinement. For the rest, vanilla latest upstream should work, most
of the things snapd requires have landed.
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I think Andres has access to the GMAAS, would appreciate if he could
verify the fix there. If not, let me know and I can try it.
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I have an odd network situation that I have so far managed to narrow
down to the inability to resolve a domain via systemd-resolved which is
resolvable with nslookup. If I use nslookup against the two nameservers
on this network I get answers for the domain, but ping says it i
Yes, this is a captive portal situation on up-to-date 17.10. The captive
portal popup fails with a DNS error looking for
securelogin.arubanetworks.com and then hilarity ensues. Manually editing
/etc/resolv.conf to use one of these DNS servers makes it all work. So
the problem is systemd-resolved wh
Might this also be why the boot is so slow on the server live-install image?
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I think you may need --classic, and if that solves it, please update the
bug to be that the error message should indicate that you need --classic.
Thanks!
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Can you attach the output from these commands, please:
snap --version
sudo snap install --classic conjure-up
It sounds to me like you may have an old version of the snap command and
snapd service.
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Huh. Try 'snap version' ?
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OK, there is your problem :) If you are on Ubuntu, try this:
sudo apt update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Then see if you have 2.23 installed, using 'snap version'.
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Michael, your changelog links are 404 for me on github.
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A classic snap would be trivial if they publish binary releases. See the
go snap for a good example.
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The confinement of the config hook is a really good idea; we don't want
a general mechanism to deliver bash to a system, we want a general
mechanism to deliver binaries to a system, and the configuration of
those binaries can reasonably be expected to be confined.
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> my apt-cache policy shows snapd 2.22.6 (see original post) but:
Your apt-installed snapd finds a newer, signed version in the core snap,
and uses that (carefully!).
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There is an SRU for 1.108ubuntu15.4 in xenial-proposed that hangs for me
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tracked it down further than that but wanted to report a bug quickly to
prevent further promotion of the package.
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I think it maybe that 15.3 had the issue, and 15.4 is OK. When I
rebooted I was able to complete the 15.4 update, and another machine
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Andy's suggestion makes sense.
Should we also kick off a thread around adding /snap to the FHS?
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Oh god yes please!
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May I suggest:
$ snap install hotcakes --beta
hotcakes is not fully confined, please acknowledge with --devmode.
... unless we already had language for this in the design document.
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On 08/07/16 18:52, Seth Arnold wrote:
> virtio-rng too, please. Thanks.
Shiver :)
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\o/ thank you for the update. Would like you to feel unblocked to take
advantage of the edge/beta/candidate channels :)
Are there bugs filed and prioritized for the things you need most?
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On 13/07/16 04:32, Uli Middelberg wrote:
>> @Uli, It's an automated dependency.
> I know.
>
> The question is: Should I modify /etc/network/fan if I'm using private
> IP addresses outside of 10.254/16, 172.16/12, 192.168/16, e.g. 10/24 ?
The key thing with the fan is that all the machines particip
On 17/05/16 12:02, Jamie Strandboge wrote:
> If --devmode is deemed insufficient while we wait for the gsettings work to
> recommence, we can:
> 1. add a new reserved 'gsettings-global' (actual name TBD) interface that
> does not auto-connect. This would allow unrestricted read/write access to th
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> @Mark - yes, though my list was a series of steps not options. :) You
> picking '3' is clear though-- unblock people now with an interface that
> allows access to gsettings, work on full mediation and SRU that. Thanks!
Please take this as general guidan
Good catch!
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But are we backporting fixes to Xenial?
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Wow.
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Sorry about this. I do believe it's addressed by our move to Mongo 3.2,
but I haven't tested that as the branch hasn't quite landed. It is
targeted to Juju 2.0 and Ubuntu 16.04 though.
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I think both of these simply involve package installation. It might be a
better experience if we ask the needed questions up front, but just
doing so as a post-install package install is a fine start. The MAAS
team should comment on the specific packages associated with each of the
two options, and
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The new LXd network setup is great! We could make the install time question a
little clearer though. Currently it is "Do you want LXD to setup a network
bridge for you?" which left me wondering whether it was going to happen
automatically or if I would get to specify the p
Thanks for the quick turnaround!
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I think the team is aiming to switch the keypress to Alt-SPACE for
16.04, which should also address this issue. The main blocker is that
they need to include window-management commands in the HUD (for
compati
Hi Jamie - whatever you think is the best approach to have this work out
of the box for other Ubuntu users installing NTP and setting up a PPS
device. All I care about is that they don't have to edit apparmor
profiles themselves.
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We will definitely provide lists of newest snaps - that can be cached
and fast.
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MongoDB 3.2.*9* was released on August 16th. I did not intend the
version to be so literal ;)
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I think it's reasonable to have parameters on the home interface, which
allow us to expand the range of files to which particular snaps have access.
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\o/ thank you all :)
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Ah, thank you, I thought we had bundled the database in the Juju package
and didn't realise it needed all the independent machinery to be invoked.
Bring on the snap era :)
I do think we should track upstream releases of Mongo because they are
essentially free performance and resilience fixes of a
Good catch. Only question from me is whether (essentially) direct shell
access presents a security risk we may regret later. A minimalist "press
enter" app would be much easier to audit, and if written in something
more likely to be input-safe and yet still compiled would take very
little in the wa
Right, and in order to make the two halves of that (system, apps) seem
consistent, we can't have themes in the system other than changes
between series.
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In testing out the new unattended-upgrades behaviour I was asked an
unexpected question about the "unattended-upgrades Origin-Pattern". This
is not a great experience, it doesn't match anything other than internal
code patterns.
For example, the default offered does NOT look
This is an interesting one. We definitely want to be GREAT for IoT, we
also want to become the best way to deliver a desktop app. The latter
means that locales need to be workable.
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The 'snap' CLI should accept a 'help' command and provide the same
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Importance: Undecided
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Saw this today:
$ snap login sabdfl
Password: *
error: cannot get discharge macaroon from store: Invalid request data
The error message should not reflect the internals of the
implementation. Instead I would have expected something like "Password
not accepted.
No, I mean simply that "snap help" says "Unknown command 'help'" when it
should give me the same output as "snap -h" :)
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OK. "snap command --help" does seem to work, though the text is very
short and not much more revealing than the top-level "--help" one-line
command descriptions. I wonder if we can signal to the user to type
"snap command --help" for command-specific help text, at the top level,
by changing the top
I'm glad you asked!
Seems odd to fragment the behavior of -h and --help which are
conventionally synonyms.
Seems odd to have a "snap man" that produces technical output for no
good reason, please drop that command, it's neither good for end-users
nor good for operators.
For the rest, let's just
I'm afraid this goes in the "infinite choice is always disappointing"
bucket. There are many aspects of customisation I can see us wanting to
support in snappy systems, but the icon of a piece of software is its
brand. We quite specifically want to move from a world where a
middle-man dresses up th
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1575593 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1575593
I think we can surface man pages in the sae way we surface binaries in
/snap/bin/
Mark
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