Gnome removed emblems support from Nautilus long ago. Thus, this bug is
no longer relevant.
** No longer affects: hundredpapercuts
** Changed in: human-icon-theme (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Won't Fix
** Changed in: human-icon-theme (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Ubuntu Artwork Team (ubuntu-ar
** Branch linked: lp:~rackspace-titan/nova/rebuild-server-lp730233
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Round orange emblems have lack usability
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Ivan Sagalaev , nope. not a theme option... that would probably a wishlist bug
in nautilus > you need to file upstream
You can learn more about how to do this for various upstreams at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream.
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Ah! That's what I suspected... The question is then can we make emblems
not suck as well? :-) I.e. place them like xdg icons. This is controlled
be the theme right?
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Lionel Dricot , Ivan Sagalaev :
Its not a bug ;) thats the icon design. the xdg folders have the icons done so
, you can see the icons > /usr/share/icons/Humanity/places
Those are not emblems.
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Ivan > fill a bug against nautilus.
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Pardon my ignorance but who should we contact to resolve the issue?
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Ivan > I'm curious about that too ;-)
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I've stumbled upon a strange thing about the emblems. Those applied by
some gnome magic to well-known directories like Music, Pictures etc.,
are positioned within the folder icon. Those that I try to apply myself
are positioned far beyond the upper right corner of the icon. Is this by
design?
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Thanks Lionel Dricot , I missed marking this papercut fixed when we
switched to Humanity theme.
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Importance: Undecided => Low
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: None => round-10
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Good news : default emblems are now usable in Karmic. This fix the
papercut bug.
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Status: New => Fix Released
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Long standing usability issue with the default desktop : perfect
papercut !
** Also affects: human-icon-theme
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Jef: probably because they are _less_ shiny and less obtrusive than
default icons.
They are just sit there without invading your mind :)
The classical look Human icons much more "aggressive" and standing out
of folder icon.
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For my own use, I felt in love with the emblems from Erectus-Human icon
set.
They consist in black circular background and grey foreground. They mix
nicely with the human icon set and are a bit similar in design to the
new notification icons. (included a screenshot)
While I really dislike the ori
BTW... Some time ago when we were discussing the issue in ubuntu-art
mail list Mark Shuttleworth asked about some form of testing this
issue[1]. Since then I've found one good analysis[2] but hadn't attach
it because Troy James Sobotka has closed the ticket[3] referring to
Mark's decision (which I
Dave > I think everyone agree
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I think the colors are MUCH MORE important than the pictograms. Nobody want's
to read or recognize labels by a few pixels!!!
Anyone agree?
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Hey guys, I just came here because as of upgrading to Jaunty I no
longer have my old alternative emblem set.
Like Ivan, I find the round orange emblems unhelpful and have been
enjoying using the multicoloured odd-shaped ones I got when I switched
to the Tangerine icon set. Today I switched to tan
Oh yes, I meant just the same icons that are used for other things.
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I agree with the idea of making the emblems easier to identify. However
if we used the tango guidelines the icons would not match the Human
theme.
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Emblems should be instantly recognisable, so they should vary in both
colour and shape. Since they are all small adornments to other icons,
there's no need for them to have any visual commonality. Their
"emblemness" is identified by their context as adornments.
I would be perfectly happy with a se
Lionel, thanks for your support! And thank you very much for pointing me
at NautilusSVN, I was looking for Tortoise replacement in Ubuntu for
years, literally :-)
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I think this bug must remain open because people like me who are looking
for it will not find it if it's closed. And, logically, the problem
still persist and can be easily solved (see the proposed coloured
version in the comments). At least by providing an alternate Human theme
with coloured emble
I want to stress that this bug is so much of a problem that most Howto
and wiki now explain how to change the emblems.
I don't discuss the I-like-or-not fact, I insist that it's about
usability. I've exactly the same issue as the original reporter. The
Human icon them is not "usable" anymore. Embl
There are many people, some with art and design degrees, who have issues
with some of Ubuntu's chosen implementations across everything from
Wallpaper to Icons to menu layouts.
That said, the current art and design final word is handled by sabdfl
himself. He chose to integrate the emblems. It hi
Hello!
Why is this one rejected if it could be fixed relatively easily? For me,
these icons lack usability and it's use does not significant enhance the
productivity ("First, read the folder's name. Then understand the
emblem"). The rest has been discussed very useful in the comments above.
Just
sabdfl chose these for inclusion during Edgy.
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I've finally managed to create some mock-ups of what I think would be
good emblems (see attachment emblems-mockup.png). They are not in any
way for real use, I just used stock icons to show my idea.
Some highlights:
- emblems have different color (the purpose of the bug)
- emblems have mostly dif
Hi, merry X-Mas!
I like Jef's emblems although, but I think an emblem should be simple and
easy to "read".
Photo realistic emblems would be a hard to identify, especially on higher
resolutions.
I know my emblems, have much room for improvements, but hey, good critic
will have a good solution. On
Personally, I prefer the "style" of Jef's emblem icon set over the
current set to a rather sizable degree. They make use of an immediately
more recognizable image for each emblem and seem more integrated and
modern compared to other included graphics in the Distro.
Eric's 'colored' update is an i
Very good work jef, i like these icons. But i think the the "emblem
character" decrease a lot with them. Personally i think emblems should
have a consistent shape, for a better use as an emblem. Different shapes
have a "symbol with symbol" character.
I have made a little hack of Maniacs screenshot
This emblem icon set is really nice, but the more I use it, the less I
enjoy it. What annoy me is, they are not very colorful and are all
circular, which makes them all looking like each others.
That is the reason why I created my own set of emblem icons (it is not
yet complete). You can see a pre
Hi,
Big thx for the good and bad words. I agree that usability and style are
often not related, but I think this should be a goal in the future.
Back to the emblems, I think the round shape is an important thing to
identifying emblems as emblems. The colors will be changed and I have a
complete r
Just my 2 euro cents:
Eric, I find that your emblems are extremely professional and beautiful.
Good job! For the sake of UI consistency I'd prefer sole use of the
orange emblems, but as many people seem to think they are not so usable,
I took a look at your preview of the coloured emblems and I fi
I think Karoliina made a good point. Yes, usability and style are often
not related. The original point of the bug is that current emblems are
stylish but not usable (or not so much usable). That's why I suggested
that we can improve usability even by returning old Gnome icons. But
sure we all woul
There is one thing though (IMHO):
- the orange ones (screenshot above) look stylish and professional
- the old ones look unprofessional
I think the fact that they are ugly has nothing to do with their usability and
usability of stylish
graphics should be improved instead of replacing the new styl
Hi,
I'm the developer of these emblems and agree with some points of critic.
I have created a colored preview of these emblems and it would be nice, when u
will write a comment about that.
http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=colorhumanemblemswa5.png
"Why are all these emblems round?". That
Something I just noticed from looking at the orange emblems again, is
that the the lighting on them, makes them become a bit harder to look
at.. the example I posted before has a very faint gradual tint in the
round forms, but the glare on the orange emblems is really fat, which
makes it blend in w
I'm all in favor of placing the emblems on folders, they take less space
this way. In fact they used to do this in Breezy but changed it in
Dapper.
But my main concern is still shape and color of emblems.
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I agree, but not wholy.. I like the way icons are unified in a way, with
similar shapes, but still distinction between them in a way.. However, I
think it also has something to do with the placement of the emblems, the
way you perceive the image as a whole..
As i see it, when you look at it, you s
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Importance: Undecided => Medium
Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Artwork Team
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I totally agree. You can't distinct them.
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