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Four years have passed and we still have no permanent menus and most of
the issues posed by this bug remain acknowledged but unsolved. I can't
quite get what the process is, but it just isn't working.
Are these issues being looked at in Unity 8 at least?
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@Aleve:
This bug was actually fixed by the Locally Integrated Menus release, but
as for the option to make the menus always visible is something that
we're going to fix ASAP.
By the way, since I think that it's a different bug, then I prefer to
close this and moving to another clean bug for the v
May I ask what fix was released, Marco, and what's exactly the nature of
the fix? Has it been fixed for the current Ubuntu version (14.04.1) or
is it fixed for an upcoming one? If it's the latter, which one: 14.10
or/and 14.04.2?
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> Does this mean this will never be fixed?
No, the milestone target for the upstream Compiz project was removed
because this task does not affect the upstream Compiz project, it's
purely a Unity thing.
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2014-07-10 21:59 GMT+02:00 Stephen M. Webb :
> ** Changed in: compiz
> Milestone: 0.9.11.0 => None
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Does this mean this will never be fixed? We're still waiting for the option
to keep the menus permanently visible...
I have a few Ubuntu installations (a lawyers office in particular) where
u
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I also can't find any dconf (gsettings) setting to make the menu
permanently visible in Ubuntu 14.04. How to do that?
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I can't find any dconf (gsettings) setting to make the menu permanently
visible in Ubuntu 14.04 (Unity 7.2.0+14.04.20140416) :(
Marco Trevisan, it seems you forgot to add dconf setting to make the
menu permanently visible, right?
Aleve Sicofante (sicofante) wrote on 2014-04-02:
> Here's my propo
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> Fix Released in Unity Unity 7.2.0.
>
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This is simply not true. Only half of the problem has been solved. The
visibility issue has been ignored by the design team so far. I don't k
Fix Released in Unity Unity 7.2.0.
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I proposed exactly that to Marcon Trevisan and he asked me to look for
John Lea on IRC. I confess I haven't had the time (I've never used IRC
before and haven't even learned how to).
Here's my proposal: http://blog.3v1n0.net/informatica/linux/ubuntu-
introducing-locally-integrated-menus-to-
unity-
Hi!
Will the "Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed" option be added to the
"System Settings/Appearance", in Ubuntu 14.04? Or is it too late? Would
something like the screenshot in the attachment be possible for
unmaximized windows? Thanks.
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May I suggest we take a look at the description of the bug? At the end
it says:
The following options will be added to 'System Settings/Appearance':
---
Menus
Location: Global/Local
Visibility: Hidden/Always displayed
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Location has been masterfully solved by Trevilño. The second one i
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Nice, but the menus keep vanishing. This doesn't really solve one of the
most controversial issues. There must be a way to have the menus
permanently visible. Many (myself included) would rather have the window
title vanishing, making it visible when hovering over windows buttons or
the empty area
Is not it this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/02/locally-integrated-
menus-ubuntu-14-04?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=locally-
integrated-menus-ubuntu-14-04&utm_reader=feedly
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Marco, the branch you linked appears to be two years old and was
rejected, so how does that make this Fix Committed?
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** Changed in: unity
Status: Confirmed => Fix Committed
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Milestone: None => 7.2.0
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Status: Triaged => Invalid
** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/unity/lim-hid
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14.04 users can now, if desired, disable global menus on a per app
basis in dconf. Should work for most common apps excluding nautilus,
firefox/thunderbird & any qt4 apps like vlc, smplayer, ect.
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2013/12/8 David Wolfe
> All to save what? 24 pixels of vertical space? Ludicrous.
Actually the global menu per se is not the issue here. Almost every
commenter likes it; just not the way it behaves _exclusively_ (not "by
default", since there are barely any options). So I would rephrase to say
Some here seem to have a conceptual misunderstanding about human
interface design. Technology and design improvements should increasingly
conform the computer to the human, not the other way around.
Confoundingly, not all humans work the same way. Regardless of which
side of the debate you take, th
@Ryan Koesters: I've build today Unity and unity-control-center with
your patches on Ubuntu 14.04 both worked without problems. I had to
manually specify the files to patch unity-control-center because I
probably used wrong -p option:
patch -p1 <
To install the packages I had to remove gnome-cont
@Aleve Sicofante: As far as I can tell, you will have to apply the patch
every time.
@TomasHnyk: The patch doesn't show the title for maximized windows.
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Importance: Undecided
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Thanks Ryan, if you could also implement a toggle to use global menu
with maximized applications only, that would be great!
BTW: does the patch in its current form ever display window's title for
maximalized windows?
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2013/12/4 Ryan Koesters
> @Aleve Sicofante: Can you explain what you mean by resist updates?
>
>
I mean, will we have to apply the patch after each update? Sometimes
updates overwrite patched versions of Unity. I'm asking if this patch
suffers from the same or is it independent from ordinary syst
@Aleve Sicofante: Can you explain what you mean by resist updates?
I attached the patch for the newly forked unity-control-center that adds
the option to enable or disable "com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar-
always-visible".
** Patch added: "Add option in appearance panel to enable or disable al
Will this patch "resist" updates?
2013/12/4 Ryan Koesters
> @Mateusz Stachowski: I am currently working on a patch to do that for
> unity-control-center.
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@Mateusz Stachowski: I am currently working on a patch to do that for
unity-control-center.
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The patch provided by Ryan Koesters works when applied to Unity in
13.10.
I've build Unity and then I had a new GSettings option. When I checked
that menubar-always-visible the global menu became visible all the time
for all programs.
This should be available in 14.04 LTS for the people that don'
The attachment "This patch adds a GSettings option to enable having the
global menubar always visible (com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar-always-
visible)." seems to be a patch. If it isn't, please remove the "patch"
flag from the attachment, remove the "patch" tag, and if you are a
member of the ~
I don't know the current status of this bug, but I made a patch to fix
part of the issue.
The patch adds a GSettings option (com.canonical.Unity.Panel.menubar-
always-visible) that allows making the global menubar always visible.
This patch was done with the unity in 13.10 repos right now, but it
Unity 8 will not land before 14.10, at the earliest. Since they are not
going to add new features to Unity in 14.04, do not expect to see this
for years around.
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Some news on this feature? It is my last major feature I want to see in
Unity. Any plan to have it in 14.04 with Unity 8, it should be great ?
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I'm confused.
This bug can only be solved in future versions of Unity. Since current is
Unity 7 and the design hasn't been changed, our first hopes go to Unity 8,
where Compiz won't be used at all. So unless Unity 7 introduces the desired
behavior in 13.10, which seems unlikely (since nobody has e
** Changed in: compiz
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It means that the work/fix has been postponed to a later release of
Compiz.
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Sorry for my ignorance. What exact changes have happened to Compiz
regarding this bug that you're informing us about here?
2013/7/22 Sam Spilsbury
> ** Changed in: compiz
> Milestone: 0.9.10.0 => 0.9.10.2
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This bug isn't fixed in 13.04 yet.
Maybe the developers John Lea and Marco Trevisan (Treviño) could chime
in and let everybody know if we can expect it to be fixed in 13.10?
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>>Leonardo Donelli
HUD is not amazing. It's extremely inconvenient and nigh-useless. I can't
imagine anyone actually making use of that poorly designed garbage. I really
have nothing nice to say about this "feauture" except that I appreciate having
a place to disable it in ccsm.
As for the glob
@Leonardo Donelli: Have you actually read this bug report at all? People
here is not against the global menu per se. Gosh, even the title says it
very clear!!! All we want is IMPROVEMENT, which in this case means some
pretty well argued options (compared to the total lack of rationale for the
curre
Selection bias. This is a bug report in which the global menu functionality on
unmaximized windows is reported as a bug. Of course the vast majority of people
on this page are against this feature. So I'll speak in favor of it.
Personally i love global menu (both on maximized and unmaximized wind
LIM has been announced for Saucy. I understand it's not a proper
announcement, but just an idea in the ongoing UDS.
Whoever is attending the UDS, please remind the team of this hugely
followed bug. If they're planning an overhaul of the menu system, they
should pay attention to everything that has
I think this issue is a symptom of a much deeper problem; Canonical need
a good designer that understand users behavior and can create a
consistent UI. Many ideas are good in Unity, but the overall execution
and UI-design is flawed and lacks consistency. Mark is clearly not the
man to make this kin
2013/1/28 Chad Germann
> >in other words: show the title of the window
> >whenever the mouse is on the top bar but outside the menu area
>
> And we don't see the problem with this whole thing by how many words it
> took to type that?
Actually, my "other words" are pretty few. You bet I would ha
> It's used for the window's buttons and title when in maximized mode, and
>the application name when non-maximized. The solution is to show the title
>whenever the mouse reaches either the top left corner (application title
>area when not maximized, buttons area when maximized) or the area between
2013/1/24 Chad Germann
> And just remove the vanishing functionality completely. its not like
> that panel area is being used for anything else.
>
> It's used for the window's buttons and title when in maximized mode, and
the application name when non-maximized. The solution is to show the title
[ x ] Global Menu on
[ ] Global Menu off
[ ] Titlebar only for maximized windows
Is bit a proper fix its just trading an annoying behavior of the global
menu for an annoyingly inconsistent one. interface fetures should not
jump around like a Jack Rustle terrier.
the fix should be
[X] Global
2013/1/23 Brad Jensen
> WHY are we auto-hiding menu options?
Because the owner of the playground believes it's more aesthetically
pleasing and that the menus are disturbing, ugly and awkward. He also
believes this pack of peculiar opinions form a "rationale". Basic logic is
not his forte. He's
I first came to this bug report because I'm so frustrated with the way
the Global Menu has been implemented.
First of all, WHY are we auto-hiding menu options? The fact that a menu
is hidden without hovering over it with the cursor is insane! All that
does is cause confusion, and hides options tha
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Mark, YOU broke this, so it is YOUR responsibility to fix it. Not mine.
Not the guy commenting above me. Not any other contributor to Ubuntu.
You alone drove through these changes in the face of massive resistance,
and by doing that you have taken on all responsibility for ensuring they
work proper
There you go guys: we're just a bunch of petulants. That's PR at it's
best Mr. Shuttlerworth. Good job, as usual.
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It will get done when it's the top priority for someone. You, me, any
other contributor, doesn't matter. Putting your hands on your hips and
demanding that someone else do work for you is just petulant.
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Guys: stop discussing the implementation. The design team and the
Ayatana team have all the briefing and are working on this.
There's only one question remaining: WHEN?
This bug was to be solved for 12.04, then 12.10... Mark Shuttleworth
promised well before 12.04 that the default menu behaviour
I think we can establish a vote about that.
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put the Global Menu also in unmaximized windows
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[ ] Global Menu on
[ ] Global Menu off
[x] Global Menu only for maximized windows
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manny,
you wanted title bar click to toggle the menu bar. If people didn't want
it, you said you would accept title bar hover to toggle the menu bar.
I'm going to go with you! :-) I want title bar hover to toggle the menu
bar.
Soon, I want:
- when the app is launched, the menu bar must appear for
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@papukaija; thanks for resetting the statuses, I have updated the
ayatana-design to the correct status and assignment.
@All; status and assignment in ayatana-design should only be changed by
the Ubuntu design team or the Canonical QA team, please do not change
the status here if you are not part
@papukaija: the Ubuntu bugcontrol team cannot revert such changes
because they were made to projects, not to Ubuntu packages. However I
have already contacted who can revert the changes; let's wait till
Monday, if I do not get a response, I'll use the mailing list.
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@all: This bug is NOT fixed. If this bug was really fixed, it would
have been announced by Ubuntu news websites and here by a developer.
@Kamran: since this bug is NOT fixed, please do not change the statuses
or assignees of this bug. Thanks in advance.
@bug-control: Could you please revert thes
gonna recreate this bug and reset it to triaged.
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*By the time 12.04.2 is released.
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Error, the fix has not been released. A fix is still being committed.
The fix should be released by the time 12.04.2. I am running Ubuntu
12.10. Maybe wait until 12.04.2 or 13.04 to be released.
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Thanks for your effort but I just updated my system an
CONGRATULATIONS, MR. MACKEY!
I'm a programmer and I tried to solve the problem, but I had to finish
learning C and C++, and learn GTK+, Nux, Compiz and OpenGL, but when I
thought I had to learn Nux and Compiz from their source codes, because I
couldn't find their documentations, I got scared and g
Fixed the issue, You can check for updates using the Software Updater to
update your software.
** Description changed:
===+++ _ ! ALL USERS ! _ +++===
===+++ READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A COMMENT OR MODIFICATION +++===
IMPORTANT 1: Please don't post an
False alarm. I was on Gnome Shell. :-(
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I have Xubuntu 12.04. I went update-manager -d. I'm typing during ">
Installing the updates". THERE'S NO GLOBAL MENU!
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@Pedro: no offense but I'd say new designs are not the issue here. It
was pretty much established months ago. We're just waiting for
implementation and some voice from the devs camp to explain what's going
on. What's stopping them from implementing and publishing the fix.
I think your proposals mi
When the app opens, show the menu bar for a few seconds, then hide it.
Warning: the menu bar floats above the app content, because they're layers.
for consistency: window controls are always visible and appear by the
left of the title in non-maximized windows, so they should be always
visible and
The worry:
When a title is on the middle of the screen, your pointer is above the title,
you want to click a thing slightly below the title and you move the pointer
from above the title to slightly below the title, the menu bar appears on top
of the thing and you click a menu item instead of the
Whatever clever magic gestures you invent please give option to disable
them.
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You mouse over the title bar, the url bar appears.
You mouse out of the title and url bar, the url bar disappears.
by Mozilla Labs
at
https://addons.mozilla.org/pt-BR/firefox/addon/prospector-lessChrome-HD/?src=search
You mouse over the title bar, the menu bar appears.
You mouse out of the title
What I find appaling here is that we're a few days away from 12.10's
release and not a single developer has had the courtesy of explaning to
the 614 people affected by this bug what's being done (or not done)
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The wanted option (always show the app menu) is still not present in
12.10.
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- Improve Unity menus
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