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Sean, please open a new bug report about that issue as this one is now
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I noticed an issue today related to the problem of indexing files to make them
searchable in Unity: I have a laptop at work and a desktop at home that are
both synced via Ubuntu One. If I decide to reorganise files on one computer,
Ubuntu One will execute the same reorganisation on the other com
Jakob
There is a trade-off between 'locate' and 'tracker'.
locate:
+ will actually find more files than other solutions, including files not in
your home directory (and not owned by you)
- Issue with encrypted home directory (?)
- relies on a daemon which by default runs just once a day (t
Will tracker be used instead of locate in future? I'd need it, too,
according to comment #72.
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I think using the locate command as an intermediate solution to this
problem is sensible. However, the locate command does not find files
within an encrypted home directory (one of the many things that
encrypted homes break), so this will continue to be a problem for many
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@Raffaele & @Mikkel: Someone already has - see
http://hoheinzollern.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/unity-tracker-lens/
Oh for this to be released and integrated!
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@Raffaele: Yes. It should be most easy to integrate Tracker as a lens on
its own or simply as a scope in the files lens. Honestly, with all the
buzz, I am surprised that no one has done so yet. My guess would be that
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Excuse me for not reading all the discussion up there..
>From the first time i used the dash, i found it extremely handy and
useful; but for what are my necessities zeigeist's way to search files
is not suited for me, so that i'm only using tracker.
So I ask: can you integrate tracker, obviously
ouch.
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 8:57 AM, Pablo Almeida
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> But does make it less likely to be fixed.
>
> 2012/2/13 AndreK
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>> reducing the importance of the bug does not make it less annoying.
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But does make it less likely to be fixed.
2012/2/13 AndreK
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reducing the importance of the bug does not make it less annoying.
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** Changed in: unity
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and if you have file like "gwibber_multiple.png", you can search it like
".png" or "gwibber..." but if I enter "multiple", I get no result
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The Unity interface, with its files-place feature for user access to
files/documents etc. is really great.
However there is a problem since the search feature relies wholly on
zeitgeist (AFAIK), in the zeitgeist is not tracking everything.
E.g. in openoffice
Hacked a bit more ...
The 'crawler' code in a-l-m has a bug comparing a timestamp in the form
of a string with another in the form of a float. Thats why it always
inserts 0 events (timestamp test always fails). It also has a potential
divide by zero bug if there are zero 'valid_uris'.
Correcting
What if have been asking myself now for a time is the reason why there
is no nautilus data source/nautilus data provider?
I suppose I do not get the problem entirely, because otherwise it would
have been implemented already.
After you installed a fresh system you could simply copy back all files
Re #53, I have compiled from source the a-l-m and tried the 'retrieve
from past' feature.
Unfortunately no matter what I do it says '0 events inserted', and no
extra files then seem to be visible.
I then tried the 'history.py' script that Seif kindly referenced on a
blog post of his a while back,
@Seif, re comment #53: Any estimate when this will land in a release
and/or PPA?
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I think the dash is revolutionary compared to the old way of finding
files and applications. It presents the user with a much simpler and
more intuitive way to get to what they're looking for. But it's useless
to me if I can't really use it to find stuff, or if I can only find a
small subset of my
The program locate/slocate keeps a database of all files so that
searching is quick, for example.
2011/10/16 Manish Sinha (मनीष सिन्हा :
> On Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM, "Bernhard" <646...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
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>> I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
>> When I sea
On Oct 16, 2011 4:35 PM, "Bernhard" <646...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
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> I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
> When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
> recent files.
As per you how shall it be done? I know the present way has shor
I never understood why the file lens is depending on zeitgeist logs.
When I search for files, I usually want to search them all, not just my
recent files.
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unity is clearly not ready for prime time yet - I cannot believe 11.10
got released with this huge problem.
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When I search for music in 11.10 using the Music-lens, it finds only
recently played files and not even every file of it. Therefore, this bug
is still present.
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To check the history, you can install activity-log-manager from the PPA
ppa:zeitgeist/ppa
https://launchpad.net/~zeitgeist/+archive/ppa
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You can get it from lp:activity-log-manager (trunk)
it works like charm here. Can you test it?
make sure you backup your zeitgeist directory "cp ~/.local/share/zeitgeist
~/.local/share/zeitgeist-backup"
give us feedback on #zeitgeist so we can finish this.
Cheers
Seif
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 11:14
Seif, what happened to the "dig up the past" button you mentioned
further up? Is this coming? I remember seeing a mock-up screenshot
somewhere, but I don't have it in activity-log-manager 0.8.0 from the
zeitgeist ppa.
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@Krister: It's not built-in, but you could create your own hotkey to
search folders: http://askubuntu.com/questions/49133/are-there-any-
hotkeys-in-dash-for-choosing-among-search-term-matches/50113#50113
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> access to the folder would then be a benefit. The "Files & Folders" lens
> could be very useful to easily retrieve folder just by typing part of
> the name.
Yes! Why isn't there a hotkey to search only folders...
I want to do this every day.
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The users should somehow be made aware that the files listed in the dash
are not *all* files in their home folder, but that it is just a
selection made by zeitgeist. There should be some explanation about what
are the "recent files" and what are the others. And even more
importantly, make the user
Regarding the folders not showing, this is another bug:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/749566
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Some files opened from that folder and below do show up. It is the
project folder itself that cannot be retrieved through the file lens. In
some cases, there is a need to organize related files in folders. Easy
access to the folder would then be a benefit. The "Files & Folders" lens
could be very u
Which app do u use to edit the files in that folder ?
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> There is more going on than the file lens only seeing recent files. I
> have a project folder 6 levels deep under / which I use regularly, and
> the folder itself *
There is more going on than the file lens only seeing recent files. I
have a project folder 6 levels deep under / which I use regularly, and
the folder itself *never* showed up in the files lens. To me, the file
lens is completely useless in its current state.
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Yes, I'd think so. Better yet, "use the files&folders lens, but it's not
100% there yet".
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Sorry to chime in since it sounds like you guys have got this thing
figured out; I just commented on bug #773204, which is probably the same
issue (after trying to answer somebody on Ask Ubuntu who wanted to know
how to reproduce the functionality in classic gnome of using Alt+F2 +
path-to-file to
Very good idea. Maybe a button saying "dig up the past" could be a good
start :)
Thanks for the idea
On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Christoph Buchner <
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> So, will you put this into activity-log-manager, Seif?
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I'm closing the Zeitgeist task on this since it is more of a data-
source/integration issue. Please open separate bugs against the project
in case you have any concrete features you're missing to implement this
(and feel free to discuss any ideas on our mailing list or IRC).
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@Seif, ive got this bug bookmarked now. cant wait to try your script. If
it works maybe it could be added to future distro releases. Running once
on install seems very reasonable.
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We are almost done :) w00t w00t :)
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Awesome! Always happy to help, even if it's just ideas, not code. :-)
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I am writing a little one time process then crawl your folders and emits an
open event to zeitgeist... :)
Thanks for the idea
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Christoph Buchner <
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> Just to be clear, I don't want to replace ZG, I didn't even intend to
> pull track
Just to be clear, I don't want to replace ZG, I didn't even intend to
pull tracker into this (it was just meant as a technology reference, I
shouldn't have mentioned it at all maybe). I'm just looking for a
feasible solution to enable users to be able to find all files they
would most probably sear
It can add a location for you to index but it gets more and more expensive.
Again I touching mean you do something with the file (open/close/modify). I
am working on a hybrid solution as i said. Sadly if you replace Zeitgeist
you also get drawbacks like sorting, constant directory monitoring (very
So, who's up to writing a script that "touches" each file in a desired
directory? :-P this, as well as my comment #29, would neatly circumvent this
problem, no?
Also, what exactly does "touching" mean? I can neatly touch all files on my
harddisk if I let baobab (the disk usage analyzer) run over
BTW just for you info there is no perfect solution right now. Even Tracker
that "crawls your desktop" doesn't find anything that is NOT in the
following folders:
- Desktop
- Documents
- Downloads
- Music
- Public
- Pictures Templates
- Videos
While this sounds good alot of files do not reside ther
The issue is that the current implementation of "files and folders" is
unacceptable. It is unacceptable that it does not show up the files the
user knows are out there. This effectively breaks the function from the
perspective of the user. Thus, this issue should be corrected with the
highest prior
The reason that we are not using tools like Tracker and Beagle is that
we didn't find them "reasonable performance-wise", nor providing the
quality of results, or fine control of queries we wanted. And working
"reasonably well" is just not good enough in my book.
That said, there's nothing saying
Ah ic, thanks for the clarification.
Would it be possible to create a feature where one manually points ZG, say, to
a directory (or, e.g. a separate data partition), and ZG would index the given
directory's contents once? Thus, ZG would circumvent the problem of not knowing
about stuff you have
There is a difference between Tracker and Zeitgeist:
Tracker indexes stuff in the XDG directories only per default which means it
will only index stuff in Music, Documents, etc...
It will not cover a Directory "Foo" or anything in it. (it makes optimal for
people with lots of files in the default d
wrt to tracker: I actually didn't want to push this discussion towards
tracker/beagle integration itself, I just wanted to point out that
obviously, indexing the relevant files _and their contents_ is already
possible and reasonable performance-wise. Consequently, I don't think it
should be too muc
I am on it already :)
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM, KarlRelton <
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> Wrt to comment #23, I remember over a year ago in blog-posts or wherever
> some communication between Seif of Zeitgeist fame and the Tracker people
> about integration/linking together
Wrt to comment #23, I remember over a year ago in blog-posts or wherever
some communication between Seif of Zeitgeist fame and the Tracker people
about integration/linking together. There was talk of one of them
pushing events to the other.
Certainly if Tracker pushed an event to Zeitgeist everyti
Needs are more modest than what Tracker or Beagle do. There is only a
need to index file and directory names, not their contents.
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Is it possible to look to beagle and/or tracker for how to approach this
problem? I've used both in the past, and it worked reasonably well (Impact of
bugs aside). Definitely better than the current situation.
I also agree comment #15 seems to be a very reasonable approach.
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It is possible for the filesystem to notify Zeitgeist if a change happens.
Sadly it is very costly memory wise (kernel side - inotify). We are looking
into an alternative to use gio. We already did the changes needed on the ZG
side. We still need to solve the issue where we capture events on the
fi
Post #15 has to be the way to go. It merges the best of flexible, fast,
and thorough, in a user-friendly way.
You cannot prevent people from installing programs that have no
knowledge about ZG. Therefore, you always will need a thorough search.
Having a "locate" every now and then is not good enou
Yeah. Right now we have dataproviders. The aim is to write more
dataproviders esp the one for which are default on ubuntu. Then those
dataproviders should also be shipped by default. In that case it would
make sense.
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I still find comments #10, #11, and #15 sum up the situ well - if 'the
main way users are expected to search' is purely zeitgeist powered, and
zeitgeist only ever relies on data-providers, then those searches are
going to fall short of users expectations.
So one way or another the user needs acces
Sorry for closing it. There is absolutelty no limit to the number of
data-providers we can write.
If you need any specific dataprovider please file a bug against
http://launchpad.net/zeitgeist-dataproviders
I know the status of this is very tricky since this bug does affect
zeitgeist-dataprovider
Maybe i'm wrong but synapse uses zeigeist, right?
And it shows also pdf, doc, .php, html and so on type of files, why we
can't show that type of files in the files lens?
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Looks like this bug was mistakenly marked as Fix Released when it's
really not. Probably the action of some rogue script ;-) So reopening.
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I think you can't avoid serving a search, that searches for folders and
files in a given folder like the good ole' find command for the shell.
ZG is a great thing. It offers a search that is performant and at the
same time adjusted to the files the user often needs. But as long as you
can't find E
The case I have is that I scp'd a folder of files from another box into
my home directory. Now, I can't seem to figure out any way to reach
those files without the terminal unless I switch to ubuntu-desktop.
That seems really silly! The files are in my home dir -- not hidden off
in the middle of
On 29/09/10 13:27, KarlRelton wrote:
> For the record, what are the 'negative user effects of updatedb and
> friends'?
"Why is my system like treacle?"
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Thanks guys. Alot more of my Openoffice work is now showing up and is
searchable.
Regarding #11, I agree that an occasional bot that snoops through the
data will still be necessary as a catch-all.
For the record, what are the 'negative user effects of updatedb and
friends'?
Two use cases:
1)
RIght, Mikkel, in the latter category we might conceive a "smart bot"
which nosies through your data very occasionally (and in a way we
believe will minimise the negative user effects of updatedb and friends)
and lets ZG know about interesting stuff.
Mark
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I think the right approach is to stick with Zeitgeist and then figure
out ways to access/discover contents that you don't have in your
Zeitgeist log.
For Natty I see two things we can do to improve the situation:
a) Ship more dataproviders for Zeitgeist. In other words: Make sure
apps either upd
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